Alex Jones material finding its way on YouTube again. lol

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Not sure where my view is on it.
On one hand, censorship isn't good. On the other, if it is a social-media platform, then i see it as a business.

That's the crux of a lot of these arguments are they a platform or are they a publisher. If they're a platform then the thought is Free Speech applies, if they are a publisher then they're a business and can pick & choose. You see the same with Twitter & Facebook and this is the biggest issue of these companies. If you're a publisher you can be held accountable for what you publish, if you're a platform you're just allowing people a chance to express themselves.

Alex Jones should be allowed on YouTube I mean his channel is as accurate as any of the rest of the "news" channels. The Young Turks are on YouTube why? Sam Seder & The Majority Report are on YouTube why? Alex Jones is bombastic and more than a bit of a goofball, but he's harmless as far as "news" goes.

Well, well, well....

And?

When you said "Jack be nimble, Jack be quick", most of us could SWEAR you'd just done bong hits. So please forgive us for being surprised at your brand new characterizations using words like "bombastic/goofball/harmless".... is it now "Jack jumped over the candlestick", Lyle?

[El Kabong]

When you said "Jack be nimble, Jack be quick", most of us could SWEAR you'd just done bong hits. So please forgive us for being surprised at your brand new characterizations using words like "bombastic/goofball/harmless".... is it now "Jack jumped over the candlestick", Lyle?

"Most of us" meaning the voices in that cavernous melon you call a head?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

When you said "Jack be nimble, Jack be quick", most of us could SWEAR you'd just done bong hits. So please forgive us for being surprised at your brand new characterizations using words like "bombastic/goofball/harmless".... is it now "Jack jumped over the candlestick", Lyle?

"Most of us" meaning the voices in that cavernous melon you call a head?

Give me your address in North Carolina

[NoSavingByTheBell]

National hubris and belief in American exceptionalism have served you badly, Lyle. I have a lesson to teach you.

[El Kabong]

National hubris and belief in American exceptionalism have served you badly, Lyle. I have a lesson to teach you.

Get to teaching me then

[NoSavingByTheBell]

National hubris and belief in American exceptionalism have served you badly, Lyle. I have a lesson to teach you.

Get to teaching me then

Ok, Louie.

[El Kabong]

National hubris and belief in American exceptionalism have served you badly, Lyle. I have a lesson to teach you.

Get to teaching me then

Ok, Louie.

So is the lesson starting or ??

[ykdadamaja]

Here is a bit of conspiracy for you: This channel that has been posting Alex Jones's show has not been taken down by YouTube, but the other channel with Alex Jones name to it posting the same videos has been taken down after this original YouTube page was set up.

Now, if Google/YouTube is all about the algorithms, certainly they know this channel- General Shepherd-is posting Alex Jones content.

Seems like banning Alex Jones from the platform is just talk. Piffy talk.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Mustard Boy accused others of Tinfoil
Then dove in hook, line and sinker;
To say it was like mixing water and oil
Would be a real stinker!

He came 180 degrees
Like a double-speak Alex:
Came crawling on his knees--
And only spoke in ITALICS.

BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣

[SlimTrae]

After hearing a few arguments over this, I decided to revisit this thread.

It seems to me that publisher was never a question- until one individual cried about them being denied- aka Drumpf.
From its inception they stated: Twitter is a short burst of inconsequential information. Twitter is a content-enabler, not a publisher neither a distributor. Their business specialized in status updates as a social utility. With restriction as it relates to quantity- 140 characters in 2006, doubled to 280 characters by 2017. But they have also stated it has evolved over time.


If I look at it from its inception- social network and microblogging were the constant terms used to define it.
At some point they launched a music app called Twitter Music for the iPhone. helped broadcasters and rights holders to share video content. Acquired an advertising network for social media stars

it seems the question of what/who they are came about as it appear this current prez used this Twitter for free coverage. No longer a short burst of inconsequential information, rather CONSEQUENTIAL information used by The most influential & powerful office in the world who was now using the site for shit other than what it was intended; now used to push a political agenda. For free at that.

May 26, 2020 the prez issued a statement via tweet related to possible voter fraud via mail. Out of all the means to get this across, again he chose a free platform and got pissed when they took action.

Not only that, but long ago, they gave power to their users; Users can mute other users they do not wish to interact with and block accounts from viewing their tweets. Is that stymying free speech as well?


As a result of appending something to his page questioning the legitimacy one demographic took issue; his political party and began to raise a word I hadn't seen associated with twitter which is: publisher.
I do acknowledge p.c. magazine also raised the question, but the majority of sites I have seen are conservative leaning like the federalist website- and most of their doubts have begun in the past few years not back in the previous decade (2006-2010)

I understand their need to censorship based on the many lawsuits they've endured from bots to people posting as celebrities, profile collection & even used to organize protests across the globe.
I'd like to think most of this- they never thought would occur from the genesis of wanting inconsequential information in short bursts (140) characters. nevertheless it has happened and among one of the many controversial usage is done by a sitting American president using a social platform to convey his policies, beliefs and even requests to his voters.

I wonder if the prez's supporters consider censorship when In 2016, Twitter cooperated with the Israeli government to remove content originating outside of their country. Or was it necessary then?
Payin' the cost to be the boss!
They have received legal demands from 47 countries and counting.
Again from it's beginnings: Fans of twitters said nothing about it being a publisher, rather they saw it as a good way to keep in touch with busy friends.- [sidenote] which is why it took years for me to get an account- All I read back then were people saying at 8am they are about to take a dump. About to leave the house for a hot date (so rob my house blind!)


In its infancy stages several high profile techys not only didnt see it as a publisher, but deemed that any form of "literate communication" was about as likely as firing up a CB radio and hearing some guy recite the Iliad.

Several firms gave their take on the content -which seems to qualify under everything but publisher, Per wiki they are listed as:
1. Pointless babble 2. conversational babble. 3. Pass-along value 4. self-promotion 5. spam 6. news

Yet from 2006 to present it has been used to promote not just small biz, but politicians and most of all the prez whose reading attention span suits 140-280 characters just fine. Now faced with international Twitter diplomacy- where a sitting prez uses it to pass judgment of events regarding allies and his enemies. 4,474 this year & counting.

Personally I'd call the prez's tweets as pointless babble. But because it has power and his minions act on it- it becomes a political platform with consequences---meaning his voters react to what they're reading be it voting wise, boycotting or possibly kicking' somebody in the ass.'

Alex Jones on the tail of the Sandy Hooks debacle- saw the people take him to court, not Twitter to court, they understood it was a platform being used by one who had as many as 5 million listeners who were told the school shooting was manufactured by actors


One whose message is so volatile- those who spoke up against Jones conspiracy were faced with death threats. Even this prez has followers who also beat people the fuck up, kids included and say he told us to. Death threats included.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ded/ar-AAH2ONq


Trump accidentally tweeted an insult at a pastor. Here’s how the pastor responded.
The “drive-by tweet” brought on “intense vitriol and hatred,” He was suddenly experiencing what many of Trump’s intended Twitter targets go through almost daily: a barrage of infuriated tweets from Trump’s followers.

The pastor stopped laughing. And published an open letter to Trump.

“Although I was an accidental casualty caught in the cross-fire of your ‘lightweight’ tweet, your attack was very purposeful and hurtful. Many others, whether American citizens or global citizens, feel wounded and hurt by the shrapnel and side-effects of your ongoing Twitter attacks. Your heart must be in a dangerous place to have such a consistent flow of defamation and disrespect towards so many,”
-- Rev. Jonathan Carl


Montana man claims Trump's rhetoric inspired him to assault boy over National Anthem

I understand why Twitter is under duress, they have a jacktail running America who can inspire hate, physical violence and so called freedom of speech givers (Alex) whom have both caused harm, all by the means of a tweet.

Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms after Twitter fact checks claims on mail-in voting fraud
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=70899912

[walrus]

Somebody here was a big Alex Jones fan if I remember correct, can’t remember who

[SlimTrae]

I wonder how quick will Donaldict Arnold's fans turn against alex if he continues to call him out.

Free speech is neccessary when one favors his viewpoints.



Alex Jones: "I'm so sick of fucking Donald Trump, God I'm fucking sick of him. The truth is...I'm just gonna say it. I wish I never met Trump. I wish I never met Roger Stone."

[SlimTrae]

Since everyone who points out what they deem as an insufficent leader, incompetent, then explain- are all labeled as Trump Haters. What does that make Alex then?

For those who steer clear of QANON, What do they make of Alex' take on the group claiming March 4th, Donaldict gets back in?
The Alex Jones Song.

"I’m sick of all these witches and warlords They’re full of shit, pumpkins, popsums. You said he was the messiah! You said he was invincible."

[SlimTrae]

How often are his on again off again supporters allowed to talk about him, before they're call out?

When are we going live? I can’t do this shit. Fuck Trump. Fuck these fucking people. What the FUCK!
--Alex Jones on his thoughts of fuck donald.
And his crew!


Alex Jones - Fuck Trump (Remix) by Red Ace Productions
Enjoy!

[SlimTrae]

If Youtube lets Alex Jones back on and his format is consistent with talking about Trump’s appeasement to the globalists, would he still be considered a conservative? Or a Trump-Hater?

"I’m not gonna sell out my morals for fucking Donald trump."
--Alex Jones

4 minutes in….{breaks into tears} If we would’ve been a piece of crap from the beginning it wouldn’t be so bad, but that’s what makes it so bad..we made so many sacrifices and now he’s crapping all over us whichj makes me sick