Calzaghe is a fucking idiot if he's actually stupid enough to think his resume is better than Hopkins. I bet you even Calzaghe's dad would say Hopkins resume is better. Cuz it is
Calzaghe is a fucking idiot if he's actually stupid enough to think his resume is better than Hopkins. I bet you even Calzaghe's dad would say Hopkins resume is better. Cuz it is
was that sly stallone at 2:10 in calzaghe's video
"Very few people really understand what it means to be a fighter. I hate it when I hear someone say, 'That fighter doesn't have guts. I hate that, I don't care if you're a world champion six times over or a four-round fighter, to step inside that ring, you have to have guts" Oscar De La Hoya
Trust me man, I'm not confused and if I feel sorry for you if you're betting the other way because you're gonna lose.
Hopkins got a gift decision against Winky and he beat 2 welters to make a name for himself. Joe has beaten everyone in his division and very convincingly I might add. Without having to fight dirty. All skill and workrate. BTW, I'm talking about guys in his own weight class not blown up greats that had no business at the weight to begin with.
Again, hopkins fought two good middleweights during his run (Roy and Jermain) and they both beat him. He spent the reast of those years against the Robert Allens of the world. Lol....3 of his defences were against Allen
He's gonna get beat up that night man. Put your oney where your mouth is because I know the result.
Francisco "The Wizard" Palacios
WBA Fedelatin Champ -WBC #1 Contender
21-1* (13 K.O.s) Cruiserweight
There's going to be a 30 minute documentary on HBO about the two fighters. Not four but better than nothing.
Please Calzaghe fought better guys than Lacy before Lacy... I thought Lacy was good as well, but he is overhyped, he sits on his punches way too long and anybody good would beat him. Calzaghe IMO has foughten two solid fighters one was Eubanks and the other was Kessler, and though Kessler did a better job technically Calzaghe fought the fight he needed to in order to beat Kessler, he knew he would have to step up the pace because Kessler was too technically sound and he did.
Oh please most of Calzaghe's best wins like Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Eubank, were either shot or coming off bad losses. I love how people discredit Hopkins for beating Tito but forget Tito was the favorite and was one of the top 10 P4P fighters, remind me has Calzaghe ever beaten a top 10 P4P fighter ?? and shall we compare there best wins ??
Bernard Hopkins Best Wins
Howard Eastman
Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Tarver
Felix Trinidad
Glen Johnson
John David Jackson
Keith Holmes
Simon Brown
Antwun Echols x2
Winky Wright
William Joppy
Joe Calzaghe's Best Wins
Robin Reid
Richie Woodhall
Mikkel Kessler
Jeff Lacy
Byron Mitchell
Charles Brewer
Mario Veit x2
Sakio Bika
Chris Eubank
Now what resume looks better ??
Last edited by ICB; 02-22-2008 at 12:50 AM.
Don't really know why Calzaghe would bother to argue their resumes... Hopkins has clearly fought much better guys overall.
At 168 there really was no one for Calzaghe to fight before Lacy came along...sure he beat the Robin Reid's and Omar Sheika's but Jeff Lacy had some weight behind his name when he fought Joe.
Bernard Hopkins has fought high calibre fighters for a longer time but before Trinidad he had a tough time finding good competition himself.
I am not denying that Lacy had weight behind his name, but I think there guys like Bika who would have beaten Lacy's ass if they fought. Lacy has all the skills, but he doesn't have the determination or mindset... He has the physical tools to be great, but he doesn't use his boxing skills enough, and he has no defense. Lacy fights too much like post jailTyson and not enough like Holyfield for him to ever be as good as he could have been. There are other guys on Calzaghe's list with more adaptability, and that makes them better fighters IMO.
Hopkins by far and away has faced the higher calibur Competition on a consistant basis and compiled a better resume.A very good and or great fighter still brings to bear the skills and accomplishments that makes him a top tier guy.Lets not get carried away the weights .
Francisco "The Wizard" Palacios
WBA Fedelatin Champ -WBC #1 Contender
21-1* (13 K.O.s) Cruiserweight
The thread u are currently in is about who currently has the better resume Hopkins or Calzaghe, not who is going to win the fight. There is a difference.
I think Hopkins has the better resume but think Calzaghe will pitty patter his way to a points victory.
So going on about how Calzaghe is going to win has stuff all to do with what evryone else is saying. Think about it.
The resume LOOKS better for Hopkins, if he actually were a Light Middleweight or lower. What are these BAD losses you're talking about that Calzaghe's opponents had? Eubank very narrowly lost to Collins (and went on after Joe to brawl with one of the hardest hitting cruisers in history twice), Reid was hardly battered by Malinga, the Mitchell fight would have been an unifaction if he wasn't mugged in Germany by Ottke, if you actually watched the Woodhall-Beyer fight you'd see Richie only lost cause he got careless early and handed the other guy knockdowns, Beyer was hanging on by the end, these were hardly career destroying defeats. You rate Eastman as one of Hopkins' better opponents, yet he could barely hang with Ashira 12 months later, a guy (rightly) considered a joke opponent for Joe.
We could go on all day bashing each guy's record, it's rather pointless though, the fact remains that BOTH guys will be legends of the sport once they retire, and rightly so.
Hopkins has the better resume on paper, no doubting that.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
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