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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    When only 2 of the top 10 are currently American,Im not buying what your selling
    3 are Mexican,is there a Mexican bias?
    2 are British,a British bias perhaps?
    Of course there's an American connection,this is where the big money fights happen
    I'm not selling anything.

    But yes, the two Americans, two Brits and three Mexicans have all fought "world" title fights in America, hence a connection to America. That fact was established on page one.

    Hope this helps.
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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    When only 2 of the top 10 are currently American,Im not buying what your selling
    3 are Mexican,is there a Mexican bias?
    2 are British,a British bias perhaps?
    Of course there's an American connection,this is where the big money fights happen
    I'm not selling anything.

    But yes, the two Americans, two Brits and three Mexicans have all fought "world" title fights in America, hence a connection to America. That fact was established on page one.

    Hope this helps.
    If America has more boxers,and more venues,how could you avoid fighting in the states if you want to make a case for P4P,its just math,not a great big conspiracy. If I had a guy who had never fought outside the Blue Horizon,and you made him P4P top 10 Id think that was ludicrous
    Hope that helps

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    When only 2 of the top 10 are currently American,Im not buying what your selling
    3 are Mexican,is there a Mexican bias?
    2 are British,a British bias perhaps?
    Of course there's an American connection,this is where the big money fights happen
    I'm not selling anything.

    But yes, the two Americans, two Brits and three Mexicans have all fought "world" title fights in America, hence a connection to America. That fact was established on page one.

    Hope this helps.
    If America has more boxers,and more venues,how could you avoid fighting in the states if you want to make a case for P4P,its just math,not a great big conspiracy. If I had a guy who had never fought outside the Blue Horizon,and you made him P4P top 10 Id think that was ludicrous
    Hope that helps
    No - that doesn't make any sense at all.

    Hatton and Calzaghe were both ranked top 10 P4P without fighting in the States.

    America has more venues than everywhere else in the entire world?

    Does America have more Strawweights than Japan/Mexico/Thailand?
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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    I'm not selling anything.

    But yes, the two Americans, two Brits and three Mexicans have all fought "world" title fights in America, hence a connection to America. That fact was established on page one.

    Hope this helps.
    If America has more boxers,and more venues,how could you avoid fighting in the states if you want to make a case for P4P,its just math,not a great big conspiracy. If I had a guy who had never fought outside the Blue Horizon,and you made him P4P top 10 Id think that was ludicrous
    Hope that helps
    No - that doesn't make any sense at all.

    Hatton and Calzaghe were both ranked top 10 P4P without fighting in the States.

    America has more venues than everywhere else in the entire world?

    Does America have more Strawweights than Japan/Mexico/Thailand?
    Yes America does have more venues then anywhere in the entire world,we dont even use alot of them for boxing,but easily could.
    In any major American city they have at least 3 major venues
    Any one of which could hold a major prize fight
    A mid sized prize fight,do you know how many minor league baseball stadiums we have alone.
    And I havent even gotten in to the Casino's yet.
    Sooner or later if you want to be taken seriously,you'll come to the states
    Lets just go baseball stadiums,and major league ones not minor league,and leave football hockey and basketball out of it,and casino halls,or boxing only halls
    Arizona Diamondbacks Chase Field 1998 49,033 Grass $355,000,000 76% 10871087 feet 407' (124m) Atlanta Braves Turner Field 1996 50,091 Grass $235,000,000 0% 0928928 feet 401' (122m) Baltimore Orioles Oriole Park at Camden Yards 1992 48,876 Grass $235,000,000 96% 003030 feet 400' (121.9m) Boston Red Sox Fenway Park 1912 39,928 Grass $420,000 0% 001515 feet 389' 9" (118.8m) Chicago Cubs Wrigley Field 1914 41,118 Grass $250,000 0% 0600600 feet 400' (121.9m) Chicago White Sox U.S. Cellular Field 1991 40,615 Grass $150,000,000 100% 0595595 feet 400' (121.92m) Cincinnati Reds Great American Ball Park 2003 42,059 Grass $297,000,000 17% 0542542 feet 404' (123m) Cleveland Indians Progressive Field 1994 43,345 Grass $173,000,000 87% 0656656 feet 405' (123.5m) Colorado Rockies Coors Field 1995 50,445 Grass $215,000,000 75% 51985198 feet 415' (126.5m) Detroit Tigers Comerica Park 2000 41,782 Grass $300,000,000 50% 0600600 feet 420' (128m) Florida Marlins Dolphin Stadium 1987 38,560 Grass $115,000,000 3% 00055 feet 404' (123.1m) Houston Astros Minute Maid Park 2000 40,950 Grass $266,000,000 67% 004848 feet 435' (133m) Kansas City Royals Kauffman Stadium 1973 40,793 Grass $43,000,000 100% 0877877 feet 410' (124m) Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Angel Stadium of Anaheim 1966 45,050 Grass $24,000,000 100% 0153153 feet 400' (121.9) Los Angeles Dodgers Dodger Stadium 1962 56,000 Grass $18,000,000 0% 0517517 feet 400' (122m) Milwaukee Brewers Miller Park 2001 42,200 Grass $322,000,000 64% 0598598 feet 400' (122m) Minnesota Twins Metrodome 1982 46,564◊ FieldTurf $102,800,000 87% 0992992 feet 408' (124m) New York Mets Citi Field 2009 45,000 Grass $850,000,000 31%
    408' (124m) New York Yankees New Yankee Stadium 2009 52,325 Grass $1,300,000,000 39%
    408' (124.3m) Oakland Athletics Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum 1966 35,067◊◊ Grass $30,000,000 100% 00077 feet 400' (122m) Philadelphia Phillies Citizens Bank Park 2004 43,647 Grass $346,000,000 50% 001919 feet 401' (122m) Pittsburgh Pirates PNC Park 2001 38,496 Grass $230,000,000 71% 0726726 feet 399' (122m) St. Louis Cardinals New Busch Stadium 2006 46,861 Grass $346,000,000 0% 0453453 feet 400' (122m) San Diego Padres PETCO Park 2004 42,445 Grass $411,000,000 70% 002121 feet 396' (120.7m) San Francisco Giants AT&T Park 2000 41,503 Grass $319,000,000 5% 001010 feet 399' (122m) Seattle Mariners Safeco Field 1999 47,116 Grass $517,000,000 76% 001717 feet 405' (123m) Tampa Bay Rays Tropicana Field 1990 36,048◊◊◊ FieldTurf $85,000,000 100% 003838 feet 404' (123m) Texas Rangers Rangers Ballpark in Arlington 1994 49,115 Grass $181,000,000 80% 0546546 feet 400' (122m) Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Centre 1989 50,516 FieldTurf $570,000,000 63% 0290290 feet 400' (122m) Washington Nationals Nationals Park 2008 41,888 Grass $611,000,000 100% 001717 feet 402' (122.5m)Suffice to say,we have WAY more stadiums

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    WTF did you just paste a whole list of baseball stadiums for? How many of those have hosted a fight within the last 20 years? Bizarre.

    Anyways, I don't think it's a bias just it's true that most of the money is in America. More of the lower weight fighters would be ranked but while we may know the top 107 lbers in Thailand, we don't know the guys there are facing day in and day out. It's just hard to sell a case for those guys when most of the public doesn't see their fights and if they do they don't know who it is the champions are fighting. Thailand is so interesting to me I wish we knew more about it.

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Trainer Monkey,

    you are completely off your rocker son.
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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Hahaha - no kidding. Train of thought runs on completely different tracks.

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    WTF did you just paste a whole list of baseball stadiums for? How many of those have hosted a fight within the last 20 years? Bizarre.

    Anyways, I don't think it's a bias just it's true that most of the money is in America. More of the lower weight fighters would be ranked but while we may know the top 107 lbers in Thailand, we don't know the guys there are facing day in and day out. It's just hard to sell a case for those guys when most of the public doesn't see their fights and if they do they don't know who it is the champions are fighting. Thailand is so interesting to me I wish we knew more about it.
    You kidding,I had fighter fighting in the Sacramento Bee's stadium recently
    The question was,does the United States have more Stadiums then the rest of the world,the answer,is, yes

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Trainer Monkey,

    you are completely off your rocker son.
    You asked a simple question,does the United States have more stadiums then the rest of the world,you got your answer
    And its pretty conclusive

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    Who? The Sacramento Bee is a newspaper. Raley's Field is where the Sacramento Rivercats play and yes, they occasionally have some very small scale boxing cards. That is literally the only baseball field I know of that they have boxing cards.

    And the question was not if the US has more stadiums then any other country. That wasn't the question at all.

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Who? The Sacramento Bee is a newspaper. Raley's Field is where the Sacramento Rivercats play and yes, they occasionally have some very small scale boxing cards. That is literally the only baseball field I know of that they have boxing cards.

    And the question was not if the US has more stadiums then any other country. That wasn't the question at all.
    That was the question posed directly to me.
    So I answered it,and you are right,it used to be the Bee's now it is the Rivercats,my bad on that,I could have just opened up my pictures and gotten that right.
    But the point is,I was asked does the United States have more venues
    Yes we do is the correct answer
    And again,I havent even touched Casino's,Basketball,Hockey,or Boxing only arena's

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    We get it, you are important. With that said, what does a list of stadiums where they don't hold boxing cards have to do with P4P lists having a bias towards Americans?

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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Trainer Monkey,

    you are completely off your rocker son.
    You asked a simple question,does the United States have more stadiums then the rest of the world,you got your answer
    And its pretty conclusive


    I never asked that question. I never even mentioned stadiums. Venue!!! That was YOUR word - Venue!!!

    Venue could be a small club, sports hall or pub (bar)

    You donut
    Last edited by Fenster; 02-09-2009 at 09:52 PM.
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    Default Re: P4P bias towards American based fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Trainer Monkey,

    you are completely off your rocker son.
    You asked a simple question,does the United States have more stadiums then the rest of the world,you got your answer
    And its pretty conclusive


    I never asked that question. I never even mentioned stadiums. Venue!!! That was YOUR word - Venue!!!

    Venue could be a small club, or sports hall, or pub (bar)

    You donut
    Considering you were talking about title fights,I was pretty sure that was a safe assumptive
    I mean it was supposed to be about P4P champions,I dont think their fighting in bars
    And if they are,there's a trainer somewhere crying

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