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    Fuck, I never noticed how bad that 2nd shot was, it was right clean on the temple, how did he stay up from that?
    Mosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.
    You have to give credit to Floyd for that. He took them and came right back, he never looked to get away, he walked straight back towards Shane and fired back at him. I was just watching the replay, and you could actually see the shock on Shane's face when he was punching him back in the last 30 seconds of that round.
    The few times i've seen Floyd Mayweather Jr stunned, he seems to comeback very quickly. I think he has amazing recovering abilites from what i've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    Fuck, I never noticed how bad that 2nd shot was, it was right clean on the temple, how did he stay up from that?
    Mosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.
    You have to give credit to Floyd for that. He took them and came right back, he never looked to get away, he walked straight back towards Shane and fired back at him. I was just watching the replay, and you could actually see the shock on Shane's face when he was punching him back in the last 30 seconds of that round.
    It frustrates me, but yeah, Floyd does deserve his credit. He didn't wilt like Hatton against Pac. He showed smarts and worked his way through the adversity.

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    JonesJrMayweather and I have had our fair share of disagreements. But he's undoubtedly right in my opinion here. Shane looked lethargic the whole fight. everyone hoping or picking Shane to win thought the Shane of old would come back. 10 Years ago Shane had the stamina, combination punching to give Floyd all he could handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
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    What fight did you watch? That fight was filled with faints... (I'm going to hit you and then, nothing by mouth like school kids in the playground but old) it was nearing the point of being pathetic. Not that far off from Jones/Hopkins.
    The fight I went to. Mayweather did far more than Hopkins did against Jones and he landed way more effective punches than he even did against Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd really gave a beating to Mosley and him a lot of times with punches that looked like they bothered Mosley.
    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
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    the real question should be

    If Mosley would have hit Pacquiao with the same shots he hurt Floyd with in the 2nd round, would Manny of gotten KTFO?!?
    IMO yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
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    The fight I went to. Mayweather did far more than Hopkins did against Jones and he landed way more effective punches than he even did against Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd really gave a beating to Mosley and him a lot of times with punches that looked like they bothered Mosley.
    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
    Dumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...

    Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
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    You have issues dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    the real question should be

    If Mosley would have hit Pacquiao with the same shots he hurt Floyd with in the 2nd round, would Manny of gotten KTFO?!?
    IMO yes
    i thought we were talking about mayweather mosley round #2?
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    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.
    Thing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.

    The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.

    Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.

    if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.

    Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..

    Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it

    Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.

    Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.

    Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.



    The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
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    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.
    Thing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.

    The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.

    Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.

    if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.

    Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..

    Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it

    Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.

    Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.

    Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.



    The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
    This is what I mean by blinded from being teabagged by floyd....Shane was tired before he even landed the big shots on floyd.He was breathing with his mouth open half way through the first round. He looked old from the start of the fight and even said "I just couldn't pull the trigger like I wanted to"...

    There is no evidence in the history shane mosley to suggest that he backs off when engaged regardless of what the other fighter is doing. He still went forward against winky, vernon, oscar, mayorga, vargas....5 guys who all hit much harder than PBF.

    tired and fatique = "can't pull the trigger like I wanted to"


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    Floyd really impressed me in the fight. He took a few very solid shots and managed to stay on his feet, holding on is simply the experience you'd hope a fighter would have after 40 fights.

    Floyds legs did look wobbly when he tried to march back, but even if Mosley got the knockdown, I think the result would have been the same, Mayweather would have simply gahered his breath and continued boxing.

    Mayweather is incredibly consistant, he picks a tactic and then does that more or less for 12 rounds and as his opponent slows, he opens up a bigger lead through being consistant. Whether his style is enough to wear Pacman out is another story.

    I think Mosley did well, you have to credit him for rocking Mayweather and trying to fight his own style, but his style was like a poor mans Floyd.

    Mosley did look out of gas from round 3 onwards, which at first seems amazing seeing he probably trained for 15 rounds, but the thing to remember is how Floyd's style wears you out. When boxing tense, it takes so much more out of you. There wasn't one point where Mosley looked relaxed and was constantly expending energy in blocking or hugging.

    Well done Floyd, but you are still a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
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    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
    Dumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...

    Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
    I am not the one trying to force my negative opinion down peoples throat.
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    No proffesional sportsman who has trained for that long should be tired after two round, regardless of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    No proffesional sportsman who has trained for that long should be tired after two round, regardless of age.

    Are you Shannon Briggs?
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