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    Default Re: Final thoughts on Pac-JMM III

    People on here in Saddo, characters and personalities we've all learned to respect through all our years of pugilistic acquaintance, disputes or alliances, but who are blessed with the pugnacity to stick to impartiality restores this site's healthy image as an avenue where fair interchange for anything boxing is given preference, accorded reverence over "topical" falsehoods, bigotry, and the plain ol' bullcrap! Kudos to all of you...

    Thankful that with this view, it has provided a gravitating reason for people with the good sense for fairplay to stay on with Saddo, keep involved... active and however despite the tiniest of contributions exercise the privilege to interchange boxing notes and ideas.


    That said... I myself would have felt bad for Manny had he had not received a favorable decision and lost. I felt he won a close UD. Had he not been the champion, easily a draw or losing 7-5 or 115-113 is not at all far fetched... it was that close. After viewing the fight on replays... even tho' it was that close, under those circumstances, I felt that Juan Manuel did not give a convincing enough effort to snatch the championship from the titleholder. He did not even get in the ring at fight night with the concept of leaving everything in the ring.

    Leaving everything in the ring is exemplified by an exhaustive effort to knock the other guy out or at least provide the most effective aggression to cause damage and firmly establish dominance over his counterpart.

    What comes to mind to depict such a situation is the night in Zaire, where Muhammad Ali's knocked out the "Big Bad" George Foremen. Muhammad Ali, a 7-1 underdog coming into the fight, and despite the peril for his health as a possible conclusion looming large, as George during that time, delivered those kind of performances, Ali came to fight night with pure "bad intentions". It did not take more than the first few rounds, to establish that there was an obvious powershift for the possible outcome purely from the skill alone on display that night. Ali through superior ring generalship and "timed aggression" provided a clear picture of dominance. This too, as JMM's was from a defensive stance.. To cut it short... he achieved the impossible... he knocked the seemingly indestructible champion in only eight rounds! Need be told... Ali did not even need that knockout that night to strip the crown off of George Foreman's head. That is what dominance is!

    This most definitely is not of the back-pedalling variety, JMM version, vainly hoping to dethrone the heavily favored champ on a safe, although time tested, a marginally low return winning scheme!

    Other fine examples come to mind.... need not go into details but the mere mention of the principals is by itself, self explanatory . Hagler versus Hearns, where Marvin was size wise dominated, needed only a knockout to beat Tommy Hearns. He did do that and knocked the "Motorcity Cobra" , to my chagrin, in three. Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson, Savador Sanchez versus champ Danny Lopez!

    Those are but a few examples where the challenger, except for the "Hagler", was severely the underdog, still came to fight night with the right attitude and game plan to leave no stones unturned.


    Sadly, as good as Juan Manuel Marquez was that night against Pacquiao, for their third install, it was not to be. It was a performance that did not present a clear cut type of conclusion in a fight with a decision.

    My apologies, I've rambled on... but some points need be made.
    Last edited by KananKrus; 11-22-2011 at 06:14 AM.

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