Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
So what you're saying is that he beat everybody, but everybody had an excuse or a story?

I edited my opening post of d thread since then .
I hoped d conclusions will b obvious , but since many ppl unfamiliar enough with d sport or just plain stupid and shallow minded , i decided 2b nice , pedagogically correct and deduced d conclusions 4 u .
Now u can read more about d connection between all of these stories and excuses .
There is a reason and cause 4 everything . 1 does not cut & swell so many so often just in case .
Remember Margachito vs Cotto ? remember Cotto's face later ?
Remember Billy Collins Jr.'s face after his fight with Luis Resto ?
still don't get it ?
i once saw some1 accusing Marchegiano at loading his gloves . Don't know if it's true . But I don't rule it out , and neither do d pics of Ezzard Charles' face after their 1st fight .
Everything must b a coincidence , doesn't it ?


Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
hahahahahaha so no you're saying that Ali was a farce yet you go on to try and boast Ramirez as an ATG hahaha the kid needs to get his head checked, and yes I have seen all of the aforementioned fights, have Ali's career set, Muhammad isn't just the "self proclaimed" the only two fighters who get mentioned constantly when debating the greatest HW of all time it's between Ali and Louis, why? cause they faced everyone and always defied the odds, Ali brought the psychological game to another level, plenty of other fighters since have tried to emulate it, most recently Mayweather
What a low level of reply . It's just u , isn't it ? repeating what u were told since u were a child .
Never applying thought , never trying 2 find d common cause / reason 4 things . Just posting shit like u always do .
Which odds exactly did Ali or Louis overcome ?
Liston took a dive against Ali in both of their fights , their 1st was such a scandalous quit that it was hard 2 sell d 2nd 2d public . Their 2nd yet even worse .
Ali , Mirena and Don King cheated huge time vs Foreman in Zaire in 1974 . U can read about it in d article i posted a link 2 in d 1st post of d thread .
I will post another thread in d future about "D Rumble In D Jungle" in Zaire in 1974 .

Both Ali and Louis enjoyed size advantage over d vast majority of their opponents .
But this thread is not about Jose Louis Barrow nor about Jose Luis Ramirez , so leave them out because i will not get dragged by u in2 a complete gutter level argument like u did in d other thread .
lol yea cause you completely ignore the mere fact that it was Liston who had the mob connections, and was the one who tried to allegedly cheat in the first fight, Ali was the underdog going into the fight, you ignore the FACT that Ali once again was the underdog going in against the younger, much larger George Foreman going into their bout, you ignore that Ali was out for what? 3 yrs due to evading the draft, and that Louis gave up most of his prime due to serving in the military, yet both went on not only to face the best but beat the vast majority, see you make up your theories and your little conspiracies and ignore REAL FACTS, you try to discredit GREAT fighter's accomplishments putting up fake weak excuses yet you try to build up fighters that were a little bit above mediocre at a world stage like Ramirez, like I said in another thread you ramble on about fake stats yet fail to see true greatness cause you have zero knowledge in the art that is BOXING, probably have never stepped into a boxing ring nor have any grasp on the fundamentals of the sport, you're clueless bud, and that's why you're considered as a joke on here