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Sad state the heavy division is in when he's in the top ten, piss poor fighter who wouldn't have been anywhere near the top ten in the 90's.

A light punching blown up cruiser puts him on his arse, put him in with Wlad or Vit now & get it over with. Haye would give him a good chinning also but the rest of this division is sub par at best imo.
At the same stage of his career Ali had been dropped by Sonny Banks 191lb and Henry Cooper 185lb Then even when he had won the title he was dropped by Joe Frazier 205lb

All smaller men than Cunningham. Does this make Alis chin shit? In fact had the little bitches from here been around back then what would you have said about Cassius Clay, knocked down by 2 small men and getting a gift decision against Doug Jones?
So you are equating Tyson Fury with Muhammad Ali? That's really a fucked up viewpoint. I wasn't born when Clay/Ali was fighting in the 60's & this is one thing I will not do, try to predict history. I don't even do top 10 lists, h2h or p4p debates as they are fucking pointless (used to, but just waste's time that could be spent doing proper things, so don't now) but each to their own.

I'm not a fan of Fury although he's improve some from his early days but most fighters do. I don't know if you are from UK (I am) or elsewhere but I've seen enough of him over numerous fights to know he's a piss poor fighter who's taken his size & reasonable power to get by in a era when the heavyweights are dire.

Cunningham was decent cruiser but can you really say he has genuine heavyweight power, not for me. Fury has been rocked numerous times but his gangly size seems to get him by. Like I stated I would get him in with the Klit Bros or Haye & show him for what he is a hype job. Anyone decent with genuine power will beat him inside the distance.

I will say one thing, although he is awful he can be entertaining in fights in freak show way. That's just my take, maybe I'll be proved wrong but I doubt it.
Hold on...

Cunningham doesnt have genuine heavyweight power?

Would you say a 185lb Henry Copper had real heavyweight power?

Or Joe Frazier who weighed 205lb (5lb less than a ripped Cunningham) had real heavyweight power? If Frazier fought today hed be in the cruiser division, just having to lose 5lb and he knocked down an undefeated Ali.

In the 70's, Cunningham wouldnt have had a cruiser division and would have been a heavyweight and he would have been regarded as a big heavyweight too. How many heavyweights back then were as ripped as he was at 210lb?
This small HW with not much power dropped a 6'9 Fury , the fact is, to anyone on here who isnt either called fury , or isnt bumming him , he got floored by a light puncher.
So lets see him get in with a big puncher at HW , fury going down doesnt mean Cunnigham was a puncher , is reflects the fact fury has a dodgy chin.
Hold on...

Isnt Price supposed to be huge puncher?

Well he has already fought and landed punches on Fury and this was a 17 year old inexperienced boy. Price was an experienced 22 year old man who was regularly fighting at international, world level.

It was Price who got dropped in that fight, not Fury