Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
Admek was shit at Lhw who did he ever beat worth a shit really and Dawson owning was embarrassing. So please don't mention Spinks with Admek please there was a huge difference in talent. Also all you have are ifs with Vatili i mean big deal Holyfeild was 40 years of age and up for most of his loses. The one you brought up was pretty much a man who should of retired. When your still depends on speed and out put those are kinda the things to go when you get older so he was not close to same fighter.
Ok I gt this all the time when discussing Holyfield..

So where exactly WAS Holyfield's prime??

The Moorer fight was slated as heart trouble, hepatitis and what not which seemed to plague him around this time as in the 3rd bowe fight.

Just after that he was already considered "shot" by some ppl.

So that leaves his conquering of Douglas until the Bowe loss right! 7 fukin fights!

Surprisingly in that time, his established prime, he was not regarded as such a great champion as he would be. And it's a no wonder because whilst his opponents were good (aging Foreman and Holmes, Cooper etc) they were not exactly stellar opponents were they, certainly no better than anything on Vitali's resume!

And the big fight he did have against Bowe, somewhat comparable to Vitali by happenstance although imo not quite as good, he bloody lost!

Adamek is another champion boxer, don't try to lower him to the point of a poor fighter either.

I think Holyfield is a tough opponent for Vitali but I could never bring myself to BET on him in this one.