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    like I said, dress it up and make it sound how you like, but if a Fight is for the MW World title, then either boxer is entitled to come in up to the 160 limit. Therefore, for example, Geale should've been allowed to come in at 160 and Cotto can come in at whatever fucking weight he wants to , up to 160.
    Because that was not the case, this means there was an agreed weight limit , i.e. A catchweight. Or is it ok because "the money was right."
    Boxing is with the possible exception of Formula One, the most capitalist driven sport in the world, it is ultimately about money, because if you are stepping into the ring to fight and money is not your main motive for doing so, you should for your own health, not be allowed to fight.

    Geale got a pay day against a top name fighter; a pay day he may not of got against any other fighter in his division; same went for Lalonde against Leonard. So there really is no issue, and there is no catchweight title fights, that truly is a contradiction in terms...
    I would venture to say that less than 1% make big money! and for the vast majority that according to you shouldn't be allowed to box, money is not their main motive. Also , money has never been the amateur boxers' main motive now or in the past.
    I would also say money wasn't the main motive for many,many boxers in the 30's , 40's, 50's and 60's .
    Without these people, the sport you like to watch would not even exist.
    This is a whole sport, don't get carried away with the top 1%.
    I stand by what I wrote. If you are fighting for a £Million or for £50; if that money is not your primary motivation, you should not be in the ring.

    In this instance Geale I suspect got good to great money because he agreed to fight at 157lbs. What you are suggesting is that, that is wrong. I am not, I want to see fighters make as much money as possible and in some circumstances contract clauses on weight, or indeed catchweight matchmaking can help this.
    I don't want to harp on about this, it could go on forever, but I would be more worried about allowing a Boxer to fight if he was fighting for £50 or £500 so as not to be flippant, and Money was his main motive. If he was that desperate that would be a worry.
    Whereas if somebody was boxing for that money or indeed nothing as a lot of amateurs do , but their main motive was the sport and their own self pride and determination , I don't think it's so bad.
    My point about the Geale fight is that if its for a title, Geale should be allowed to come in at 160, and it is the WBC that decides that, not COTTO!
    I'm all for boxers earning as much as they can, and good luck to them. But when they start to dictate what weight their opponent comes in at, then the tail starts to wag the Dog!
    You will say "Geale could've turned it down," but what should happen is that the WBC should've decided who fights and at what weight.
    Infact, we can agree that Money was the main motive for Geale to drop to 157 and box at the lightest he has for many years. Yet if you remember seeing him on the Scales, or in the fight, where he was clearly drained and had No punch absorbency, then surely it is he who shouldn't have been allowed to fight from a safety perspective, and that has to be the No. 1 factor, above all including Money.
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