Canelo’s short list

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I completely understand that p4p is subjective. The problem is that there is obviously a point to where you would find someone who doesn’t have knowledge of the sport. For example, if I said that Andy Ruiz was #1 p4p and his whole team said the same thing, you would just assume it was all biased and wouldn’t take it seriously.

That was my point. Certain lists you can’t take seriously for one reason or another. If you can’t see that then I don’t know what to tell you.

i fully understand that some lists can't be taken seriously. the point i was making is there are knowledgable people around boxing that consider canelo number one p4p. having andy ruiz at number one, i think we both would agree would be ridiculous, but a case can be made for canelo. from the second ggg fight he has been nothing but marvelous

I’ve already made my point multiple times and you still aren’t getting it so I won’t state it again.

My biggest argument against Canelo though is that if GGG would have gotten both decisions (which majority of people had him winning both fights) would any list have him at #1? The answer is no. People can only put him at #1 because he got gifted a draw in the first fight and was fortunate to get the win in the second one. Weight rankings and mandatories are one thing since they are more official rankings. Since p4p is just opinion on who is the best, then I think we should throw out official scoring and base it off of what actually happens in the ring.

you are not getting my point, i answered your question with examples, just because you don't like the examples doesn't mean they don't exist or are less relevant than your opinion. i thought canelo won the second fight. i put him at number one because i had him beating ggg at his own game in the second fight, destroyed fielding who holds a win over ryder, clearly beat jacobs, and jumped two weight divisions to knockout a titleholder at lightheavyweight