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BUMP.

I was looking for the "Woke as Fuck" thread, but found this one (which I never wrote in) and decided to put this here instead.



https://www.cf.org/news/native-ameri...k-to-redskins/

"Native American Group Threatens National Boycott If Washington NFL Team Doesn’t Change Name Back to ‘Redskins’"



See... here's the thing. I agree with the statement of the thread title. "Racist as fuck" IS no better than "woke as fuck." Racism, IMHO, is one of the most despicable sentiments held by man. It's based on fear, ignorance, lust for hatred, and all kinds of dark sentiments. And to racism, you can add ethnic prejudices, sexism, and the like. To be clear, I'm not including wanting to force life choices on other people... so I'll add that disclaimer.

But to see the very subjects (Native Americans) of this issue decry the change of a team name, and threaten to boycott the NFL if they don't change it back... well... that would be almost funny if it wasn't so damn ironically tragic. I won't regurgitate the points that are very well explained in the article. Suffice it to say what I've ALWAYS said and maintained. Changing team names and pancake syrup name brands (Aunt Jemima) does NOTHING to change the very real problems of racism in any society. It's misdirected window dressing. It's low hanging fruit. Except in this case it isn't even being picked from the right tree. It's ridiculous grandstanding by those who really don't want to do one damn thing to tackle the problems for real. So they pick on meaningless bullshit... pat each other on the back on a job well done... and go back to their pitiful lives.

Meanwhile... you've got the very same Native Americans who I guess were apparently supposed to be (cough) grateful for this gesture... and they're up in arms and threatening to boycott the league if they don't change the name back.

Priceless.

So yes. Racist as fuck is just as bad as woke as fuck. But make no mistake about it. When people refuse to roll up their sleeves and do things for real... this is the type of brainless shit that happens. Speaking of "fuck".....

WHO THE FUCK instructed this woke mob to speak up for the Native Americans?? Who gave them permission to act as their spokespersons and pressure the NFL to make this change?

Where are they now that the Native American groups are protesting the name change??

Why aren't they now proceeding to tackle every other professional and collegiate team with a supposedly "offensive" team name? (I'll just throw it out there that the list is quite long. Lots of work to do. ).

Pathetic.
A quick google shows that this group are a bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Daniel Snyder, the NFL team's former owner. Here's a list of the board of directors: Jonathan Tso, David Finkenbinder, Demetrius Maraz, Jeffrey Charley.

Some good old Native American names in there.

The guy who wrote this story obviously didn't want the truth to get in the way of lots of clicks so didn't point this out to his readers.



Instead of blurting out claims with no backup, what say you post the actual documented proof and sources? And of course your forum lackey would grovel at everything you blurt out, as per his custom.

What group is a "bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Dan Snyder"? NAGA? You got proof of that?

It's NAGA that maintains it wants the Redskins name restored. Are you going to go down the list of its members and call into question whether they're "real" Native Americans? Is this part of your areas of expertise?

We all know you're an unabashed left extremist, sympathetic with every liberal cause in the US.

Which automatically disqualifies you from having any objective views on shit like George Floyd, BLM, NAGA, and every other org and cause out there... whether it has merits or not.

I, on the other hand, base my opinions on a case-by-case basis... devoid of any extremist bullshit views.



By the way... now that the Redskins are now the Commanders... how's THAT working out for the Native American community as a whole? Have all their problems magically disappeared? Cool, huh?

Blunt pronouncements don't automatically mean they're right.

So pull out the ol' charts and graphs and show me where your claims are factual. Otherwise this is just a pointless argument.



Team name changes, pancake brand name changes... it's all meaningless window dressing. I figured someone as intelligent as you could see that. They're token gestures, meant to distract from the real problems these minorities face.

But hey... let's not let logic get in the way of the snazzy one-liners, eh?