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Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style