Kessler-Miranda Will Not Happen

[Majesty]

And the truth is, Miranda looked really good versus Pavlik, he landed some bombs and while his hype was pretty much destroyed, in the end he doesn't look so bad. You can argue that he gave a better showing then JT did their first bout even without the knockdown.

All that is your opinion, to me Miranda didn't look that good against Pavlik, it was an exciting fight don't get me wrong, but Pavlik shut him down and once Miranda's power wasn't a factor he was backed up and knocked out. I don't get this whole "at least it was a good fight logic" when the fact remains that he lost he got outboxed and he lost. And personally I think Kessler is a better version of Pavlik at Super Middleweight just with more boxing skill and less one punch power.

If we're gonna talk last fights

Edison fought(and this is at middleweight)

Was Howard Eastman who isn't going anywhere anytime soon
He lost to Abraham(no way you slice it YES it was controversial, but the point deduction he lost was from a headbutt he did out of frustration and thats something you can't act like the ref did in a foul way, Wacko did the best job at describing that fight) I wanted him to beat Abraham, but I accepted that he lost, always felt he could KO abraham in a rematch(until the Pavlik fight but more on that later)

Willie Gibbs...I don't have to say anything, he was a good prospect till Eduard knocked him out, and not only that he just lost recently to Raymond Joval if I'm not mistaking.
Allan Green, someone whom almost got knocked out by some guy named McCrary, he got up and won so I'll give you credit for that, but Allan Green is years away from being a title contender if he gets one.
Pavlik knocked him out no way you slice it he lost and he got beat the same way. Now to be honest with you, I thought that Miranda would win this fight. I heard that he had been working on his defense, developing his jab and keeping his hands up. The fight happens and what do I see? Leaping left hook, Wind up right hand, same pawing jab. I said to myself and everyone around me after that first round that Pavlik was going to knock him out. Miranda didn't change and he never will, thats why I'm not buying the hype this time.

Since he has beaten Henry Porras and David Banks... to try to legitimize these two fighters would like trying to prove Paris Hilton is a virgin... you just can't do it.

Until there's a Miranda fight that shows us something different, he would get beat by Kessler.

If Miranda showed a defense better jab better hook in his last fight then I'd be on that train. But all he did was knock Banks out, showing power, which we already knew he had. nothing new. Get what I'm saying?

And to say Kessler won't get credit for beating Miranda is ludicrous. Do you remember how much credit Pavlik got for beating him? He went from no one picking him to beat Miranda to half the people on the board picking him to beat Taylor. And now Miranda has 2 KO wins, including the KO of the year so far over David Banks.

Again who are the two people Miranda knocked out? And I bring up Mundine as part of the equation that there are other super middleweights for him to fight, thats why I also mentioned Pascal and Adrande. Truth be told if Mundine had done that to Banks no one would be blowing as much hype behind Mundine as they do behind Miranda.

Look, Im a Miranda fan, but just because he ko's a bum who wasn't even known before the contender show which he lost in the first round. I see it for what it is, it was a devastating KO, possibly KO of the year, but in no way confirms anything that says he could beat Kessler.

That fight told us one thing, that Miranda had one punch knockout power, he's still the same Miranda and people are still going to overrate him because he hits hard. Read what I said, I said that all the fight did was confirm that Miranda was a power puncher that was already known, and I also mention Mundine as in there was a change seen in him and he became a more well rounded and complete fighter after losing to Ottke. Between both of Miranda's losses, his style remained the same. He is still the same Miranda and would still get beaten the same way. Till I see a good jab and an ability to fight on the inside then I'll give him a chance against Kessler. But he's still the same Miranda who throws all his shots from the outside with the same setup jab he's always had, the same Miranda that would get picked apart by Kessler.

Miranda is still a hugely popular fighter and would represent one of the best fighters Kessler has ever faced, in a comeback bout no less. He wouldn't get credit? BS.

He won't get credit from the people who see things like I do. Everytime he has stepped up to someone of Kessler's class he has been beaten. First one is controversial, second one was exciting but he was ultimately knocked out in a fight he had lost control over by about the mid rounds when he was being pushed back. I have no doubt Kessler who is naturally bigger and at a higher weight class would do the same to him.

You can give credit to Kessler for beating Miranda if you want to, but leave me to my opinion on how I see this fight happening. If Kessler fights Miranda and beats him he'll get no credit from me, because Miranda JUST got to Super Middleweight and he hasn't even been tested there yet and it would be suicide to just throw him in with a guy like Kessler. And by Kessler will get no credit from me I'm not saying I won't respect him for taking the fight or stuff like that. I'm saying it won't show anything new. Miranda can be outboxed and Kessler is a great boxer with power. Stuff we already knew. Get where I'm coming from?

I'm not speaking from an "I hate Miranda" perspective. I like the guy, I want to see him succeed but throwing him in with Kessler is the wrong thing to do because Kessler would stylistically beat him badly. And I don't want to see that happen. Thats why I'm saying let him fight Pascal, or Adrande or Mundine, people that can test him at Super Middleweight. As opposed to throwing him in with someone like Kessler and getting him tested and beaten. Because the three fights I mentioned are safer ones then a fight with Kessler and ones he can get tested in and still win.

Do you get it now?

If Mundine being Ko'd by Ottke is still relevant so is Pac being Ko'd by singsurat, or Haye losing to Thompson.

Just cos a guy has a bad fight years ago in one of their early bouts dont mean its all that relevant now.

Since Ottke Mundine has been in with big hitters like Echols, Kessler and Green and hasnt been KO'd by any of those guys.

Many seem to forget that Mundine had no amateur background and fought Ottke in his 10th fight, anyone who thinks that is still relevant obviously hasnt seen Mundines top shelf wins against the likes of Green and Soliman.

Finally someone gets my point.