To me Joe looked like he couldnt hurt Hopkins at all. You think he could hurt Pavlik? I don't think so. Pavlik hits way harder than Hopkins and Kessler and he is way busier. He throws that jab out there and he is very accurate with the right hand. He can control the center of the ring but he often never does because he always has his man moving back. He throws around a 100 punches a round and never seems to tire. Look at the Taylor knock down. He ate tons of right hands and got right back up . That would have put away most middle weights. That just shows how conditioned he is. If he didn't drop his hands to show off he would not have had that problem. But I guess you live and learn. To say Calzaghe would destroy him is crazy. He got knocked down and hurt a few times by a middle aged man. This sounds kind of like the chances that people gave him with Miranda and Taylor. He destroyed both of them. Pavlik is the hardest hitting middle wieght in the world. And that 160-168. Miranda is the hardest hitting at 168 and Pavlik has more power than him. Or maybe his chin is just that good.