
Originally Posted by
Galaxy

Originally Posted by
p4pking
That's not really true though. I haven't heard anyone say that Casamayor is the best lightweight in the world for years. I also wouldn't personally consider him the man to beat at all. For starters, it's highly unlikely imo that he'll beat Juan Diaz when they meet. Now your telling me Campbell will be seen as just an alphabet holder wheras Diaz will be heralded as the true champion in this case, even though Campbell clearly beat him this year and Casamayor is ancient? I understand what you are saying as far as from a promotional standpoint it will be hard for Nate to get the big fights, but I'd say he's definetly considered the top lightweight in the world by most fans.
Its very true! I never said Casamayor is the best fighter in the division & I don't think he is. But he is the champion! If you don't think the champion should be beaten in the ring then your part of the problem! If Diaz defeats the champion why shouldn't he become champion?
The best fighter in a division is not always the champion if that were the case the championship would never change hands!
I too consider Campbell the best fighter in the division but until he defeats Casamayor (or Diaz should he win) he will only be the holder worthless trinkets that will sooner or later be stripped from him.
I just think Ring titles, or even the lineal title, is just like any other championship. It's only worth as much as the champion holding it. I mean I've heard that Zolt Erdie is the lineal light HW champion... Apparently Darius was the lineal champ at LHW during Roy Jones reign... But did it matter to the general audience, or to Roy Jones as far as being considered the man and landing the best fights? Not whatsoever. In this case it's not to the same extreme, but even still as was said few would consider Joel the best lightweight in the world. And sure you can make the point that Campbell is at risk of being stripped at any point, but Casamyor is in just as much danger of being overmatched and jerked around. The entire point I was trying to make previously is that with Golden Boy owning the ring, it may become just as political as sanctioning bodies. It's obvious Golden Boy WANTS Cas to lose the title, he's no safer than Campbell. And again, I just don't see what makes Campbell's belts "worthless", wheras Casa's is so meaningful. I understand the historical signifigance, but like I said, Casamayor never really did anything recently to solidify his being the man at lightweight. I just don't consider his recent wins anywhere near as meaningful as Campbell's, and that's what I'll go by. I don't think I'm alone either.
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