An Open Letter to Richard Schaefer: From: Nate Campbell

[p4pking]

Wow. He really did take it to him, you pretty much have to agree with everything he says. I thought Golden Boy would be good for boxing when it first came about, since then I've got to say I think completely the opposite.

[Lance Uppercut]

Wow. He really did take it to him, you pretty much have to agree with everything he says. I thought Golden Boy would be good for boxing when it first came about, since then I've got to say I think completely the opposite.

Regardless of what The Ring Champions do: there are two constants
1) the belt does not get stripped and can only change hands involuntarily in the Ring

2) There is no sanctioning fee corruption, because there are no sanctioning fees.

No matter who wins the Ring titles, because of these two constants, it will always be a more legitimate Belt then the alphabet titles.

[Deanrw]

Wow. He really did take it to him, you pretty much have to agree with everything he says. I thought Golden Boy would be good for boxing when it first came about, since then I've got to say I think completely the opposite.

Regardless of what The Ring Champions do: there are two constants
1) the belt does not get stripped and can only change hands involuntarily in the Ring

2) There is no sanctioning fee corruption, because there are no sanctioning fees.

No matter who wins the Ring titles, because of these two constants, it will always be a more legitimate Belt then the alphabet titles.

What you are missing though, is that in the very near future, there will be fighters without promotional ties to Golden Boy, who might never even get a crack at the belt, as they are not under Golden Boy's umbrella. GBP has already tried to exclude Nate from a shot at Manny by trying to set up a fight with JMM in November instead of "soon". That is what Nate is lashing out about.

[p4pking]

Wow. He really did take it to him, you pretty much have to agree with everything he says. I thought Golden Boy would be good for boxing when it first came about, since then I've got to say I think completely the opposite.

Regardless of what The Ring Champions do: there are two constants
1) the belt does not get stripped and can only change hands involuntarily in the Ring

2) There is no sanctioning fee corruption, because there are no sanctioning fees.

No matter who wins the Ring titles, because of these two constants, it will always be a more legitimate Belt then the alphabet titles.

What you are missing though, is that in the very near future, there will be fighters without promotional ties to Golden Boy, who might never even get a crack at the belt, as they are not under Golden Boy's umbrella. GBP has already tried to exclude Nate from a shot at Manny by trying to set up a fight with JMM in November instead of "soon". That is what Nate is lashing out about.

Exactly. It could potentially be no different than another sanctioning body in the near future, at least bit by bit as GBP fighters acquire the belts, or as GBP acquires ring champions And although the belt's can't be stripped, I don't believe they have ever had mandatory ring challengers, so DLH can sort of plot the way his champions are going to with defending the belts. Were already seeing him jerk people around to set up the matchups he want's, and there's no possibility of any sanctioning body or other promoters in the way. At least with sanctioning bodies and promoters they have bargaining power and a process on each side, with DLH both promoting and owning the title's his fighters hold is worrisome for the sport imo. I think it's very likely that the ring belts could quickly lose prestige as GBP becomes more involved with them. I mean you could liken this to Don King buying out Jose Suliman and becoming president of the WBC or something. Were already seeing huge conflicts happen at lightweight, and I do believe Casamyor is the only ring champ GBP has in it's stable...

[BoomBoom]

I like this guy, he makes some good points. He must love being the man in the division with all the GB fighters ranked below him.

[Hulk]

Boy there sure is a lot of Golden Boy Promotions paranoia goin round here huh?

Campbell is a pimp. Gotta agree with him though.

[No Contest]

This is what I've been saying about GBP, and why I now dislike ODLH. Everyone knows Nate Campbell should be getting his choice of opponents holding 3 titles, but he is left scrounging for a fight. That shit aint right.....

[killersheep]

I am officially a Nate Campbell fan now!!

[XaduBoxer]

Wow. He really did take it to him, you pretty much have to agree with everything he says. I thought Golden Boy would be good for boxing when it first came about, since then I've got to say I think completely the opposite.

GBP good for boxing?

1. GBP has not develop their own talent. Their prospects were falling down one by one. They rely on their old guards (Oscar, Hopkins, Mosley, Barrera) for some top promotions.

2. GBP is pirating top boxers from other stables. For example when they offered PAC a suitcase full of money just to sign up for them (good PAC realized it's not the best thing for him after signing the contract).

3. GBP is a proven top promoter? Say the Oscar-PBF fight. Yes it broke the all time record for PPV buys but what did the fans got? The fans felt robbed of their hard earned $60 after watching a boring main event in a lackluster fight card (remember "Stinko de Mayo"). Now GBP is planning a rematch, Oscar-PBF 2. I'll pity the next million casual boxing fans that they want to rob again. Oscar already got his crack on PBF and he came up short. Why don't he give this chance to another boxer like Cotto? (PBF-Cotto match up is what fans are craving for). Ohh I understand Cotto is not a GBP boxer. Then why not give this chance to Mosley? Specially if Mosley beats Judah. Mosley is already old and has given a lot to boxing. Mosley should be rewarded with a crack on PBF since fans think that he's one of the boxers who can give Floyd a tough fight. Maybe Oscar can get another crack on PBF after 1 or 2 boxers will have their first crack on Floyd.

4. GBP trying to monopolize boxing. Just like the scenario Nate mentioned in his letter. GBP planning to control fights at lightweight division.


I feel GBP is not really doing it all for the good for boxing. GBP is more concern with the money from boxing.

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[Fenster]

Campbell is promoted by Don King, right?

[killersheep]

Campbell is promoted by Don King, right?

Doesn't make his points any less valid, gotta love the "fight me now leave the marketing behind" thing.

[Galaxy]

I'm a big Campbell fan have been for ages but in attacking the Ring belt he's wrong. He can say whatever he wants about GBP but the facts are the Ring champion still has to win the fights. I don't really mind what fighter the champion is fighting but the winner will be recognized champion & thats a fact.

IMO the best fighters usually what to test themselves against the best.

I agree that November is to long & a Marquez fight should be made sooner. The fight I'd really prefer to see is Casamayor/ Campbell so maybe once Joel is done with Diaz it can be made.

If Nate is so worried about Santa Cruz why doesn't he offer him a fight? It might not make much money but would put him in good stead for a Casamayor remtch

[XaduBoxer]

If GBP is serious in offering a fight for Nate, they should offer either JMM, Casamayor or Juan Diaz (or Barrera?) for a July fight... Santa Cruz is not included coz he at least should have a rematch with Casamayor first... Katsidis? Naah, Kats will be considered to fight Nate only if he will be allowed to wear his helmet while boxing with Nate...

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[Galaxy]

If GBP is serious in offering a fight for Nate, they should offer either JMM, Casamayor or Juan Diaz (or Barrera?) for a July fight... Santa Cruz is not included coz he at least should have a rematch with Casamayor first... Katsidis? Naah, Kats will be considered to fight Nate only if he will be allowed to wear his helmet while boxing with Nate...

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Well aren't Casamayor & Diaz fighting each other? So those two are out. Katsidis needs to rebuild. Marquez is the only real option IMO & I agree it should happen soon. Santa Cruz ain't getting a shot at Casamayor because it won't make the sort of money Joel is looking for.

If Nate thinks he knows about the game he should throw those bogus belts in the trash for a start. If he knows anything he should know the only championship that matters is the one around Casamayor's waist! Without it Campbell will always just be another alphabet holder.

If November is to far to weight for Marquez the Campbell should offer Santa Cruz a fight in the interim. He still have 3 to 4 months to prepare for Marquez after that fight. Or is that not the sort of fight his promoter can organize?