Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Have you considered we were going to Iraq anyway 9/11 or no 9/11? Have you considered that Saddam could have just followed the treaty of the Persian Gulf War? Have you considered that even as botched as this war has been that it is admirable that the US decided to stay and fix what we broke and not leave the aforementioned "poor Iraqi civilians" to be brutalized by whatever tough guy would have taken over?


I'll argue with people all fucking day about Iraq it doesn't matter how we got there (mainly because nobody can change that) it matters that we are there now and it matters what we do there right now. But that's apparently too much for the anti-war people to handle at this point in time....oh let's sit down and have a finger pointing session while Iraq is in a state of anarchy....oh splendid.


Doesn't it matter that this mess gets cleaned up? Oh no I'm sorry what was I thinking we just have to find people to blame and everything will fix itself....that's the way of the world.
Of course it matters how you got involved in Iraq.

The war was started on a foundation of misinformation, lies and a complete lack of legitimacy. Then there is Guantanamo bay and the lack of respect regarding human rights. And now the economy is imploding, undoubtably the costly wars havent helped too much. Afghanistan even appears to be deteriorating. And a national debt your grandchildren will most likely be subsidising as a result of it all.

Its fucked up, and you show yourself up trying to defend or excuse that kind of nonsense.