Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
I'm sorry but what a bunch of Gimmicky circus crap.I remember HBO was all over Roy's shaft.Brannon had no business being a mandatory and point of fact is Roydid not Need to risk more with this sort of warm partnership afforded to himself.

And what was up with Tony Pages reference to a wheel chair,"is that your only chance of respect" Set-up
Nobody else would fight him. Did you watch the whole thing? Why wouldn't HBO be able to get a fight for 7 figures with Nigel Benn or Chris Collins or Frankie Lyles? And this was just an example fo it. B-Hop was too pig headed, he didn't deserve the fight with Roy with him getting 50/50, but he wouldn't fight Roy unless he got that. It wasn't just B-Hop's fault, but as a guy trying to face the p4p #1, you have to make the sacrifices especially if they are the bigger draw.

Mayweather was p4p #1 yet he fought Oscar at 154, he fought Gatti at 140 in his home town.

Its the less known guys job to make the fight, not the more popular guy. If you want to call somebody out you have to make the sacrifice. Also I don't think Roy was that much bigger then Bernad, I just think Bernard worked very hard to stay at MW, lately Bernard has been just as big as Roy ever was at LHW.

I am not trying to argue that Roy JOnes Jr. is unbeatable. I think p4p Ray Robinson beats him, I think Floyd Mayweather makes a good arguement, I think Pernell Whitaker style wise gives him a good fight. I think Sandy Saddler p4p, Roberto Duran, Leonard, Hearns, all p4p give Roy a good fight. Among others.

But what I am saying is that Roy was the best of the 90's Though his skill level was comparable to some, I think the one test of how good they are is how long, how heigh in weight they can climb and maintain that dominance. However in the 90's I think there were two fighters who were relatively close to Roy and that was Hopkins and Whitaker. I think Dela Hoya and Mosley and Ricardo Lopez followed after them. In the 2000's the closest guys have been Mayweather(who I have on the Pernell/Hopkins level) and Winky Wright(who I have between MOsly/Oscar and the top level). Then there is Pacquaio and then Joe Calzaghe.

Roy Jones jr though had the biggest tool set both physically and in terms of effectiveness. I think he is a chin or a win away from being a p4p great(I mean top 20).