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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

    I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..
    Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.
    I agree 100%...

    Out of curiosity...I would like the detractors to name guys that they feel would have beaten Roy at 168...His true prime...

    Not given a good fight but beat him......

    Every fighter is beatable no matter who they are....Just have not seen the man able to do it..
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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

    I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..
    Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.
    I agree 100%...

    Out of curiosity...I would like the detractors to name guys that they feel would have beaten Roy at 168...His true prime...

    Not given a good fight but beat him......

    Every fighter is beatable no matter who they are....Just have not seen the man able to do it..
    I'll bite .Simply put,I think Nigel Benn had a realistic chance of defeating Jones.Can I say he "would" have beaten him,No.But in fairness I equally can not say Jones "would" have beaten Benn.After what Benn prevailed through in that tragic but stunning McClellan battle,I was hard pressed to make Jones a lock for a win and if their was a fight to be made,that was the ONE.McClellan was a huge favorite,many picked him to steamroll Benn.....for a moment lets put aside all of the excuses,Rabbit punching,Long count,etc.I am always hesitant to trump that fight up,talk fondly of the win.You just can not,It was a horrible ending,but the fight did happen,and Benn emerged the victor.

    On paper,It appeared a whitewash for Roy.He was faster,deeper in pedigree,emence balance and instinct,really exploited a mans mistakes in embarrassing fashion.If we are talking strictly 168 as mentioned,he faced some guys in Thorton,Pazienza,Brannon etc. who brought forward pressure but NEVER the unbridled two fisted threat and intensity of Benn in that division.Benn could make it rough in there in a way Jones never had to deal with and would keep jones guessing.And I do think that as hard as Jones was to catch clean...I feel that Benn had the arsenal/power to hurt Jones badly.Call it the proverbial "punchers chance" but I think it was more than that & I honestly think Benn had an honest shot, I don't think Jones would be able to get in Benns head ,Ok commence laughter,Im done.

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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    I see the fight as Benn getting starched out early. Jones would have timed him and pummeled him out.

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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    I see the fight as Benn getting starched out early. Jones would have timed him and pummeled him out.

    EXACTLY!

    So why did Roy avoid an easy big money fight?



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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    I see the fight as Benn getting starched out early. Jones would have timed him and pummeled him out.

    EXACTLY!

    So why did Roy avoid an easy big money fight?



    The fear of been KO'ed is all I an think of.
    In an odd way,That McClellan fight affected Roy mind set as well.Its ALL speculation and "what ifs" but I say Benn had an excellent chance.......And right now I'm sober

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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.
    I agree 100%...

    Out of curiosity...I would like the detractors to name guys that they feel would have beaten Roy at 168...His true prime...

    Not given a good fight but beat him......

    Every fighter is beatable no matter who they are....Just have not seen the man able to do it..
    I'll bite .Simply put,I think Nigel Benn had a realistic chance of defeating Jones.Can I say he "would" have beaten him,No.But in fairness I equally can not say Jones "would" have beaten Benn.After what Benn prevailed through in that tragic but stunning McClellan battle,I was hard pressed to make Jones a lock for a win and if their was a fight to be made,that was the ONE.McClellan was a huge favorite,many picked him to steamroll Benn.....for a moment lets put aside all of the excuses,Rabbit punching,Long count,etc.I am always hesitant to trump that fight up,talk fondly of the win.You just can not,It was a horrible ending,but the fight did happen,and Benn emerged the victor.

    On paper,It appeared a whitewash for Roy.He was faster,deeper in pedigree,emence balance and instinct,really exploited a mans mistakes in embarrassing fashion.If we are talking strictly 168 as mentioned,he faced some guys in Thorton,Pazienza,Brannon etc. who brought forward pressure but NEVER the unbridled two fisted threat and intensity of Benn in that division.Benn could make it rough in there in a way Jones never had to deal with and would keep jones guessing.And I do think that as hard as Jones was to catch clean...I feel that Benn had the arsenal/power to hurt Jones badly.Call it the proverbial "punchers chance" but I think it was more than that & I honestly think Benn had an honest shot, I don't think Jones would be able to get in Benns head ,Ok commence laughter,Im done.
    After the Gerald McClellan fight Nigel Benn was a finished fighter, mentally and physically. Im glad he didn't meet RJJ at that time, he would of been beaten in embarrassing fashion.

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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post

    I agree 100%...

    Out of curiosity...I would like the detractors to name guys that they feel would have beaten Roy at 168...His true prime...

    Not given a good fight but beat him......

    Every fighter is beatable no matter who they are....Just have not seen the man able to do it..
    I'll bite .Simply put,I think Nigel Benn had a realistic chance of defeating Jones.Can I say he "would" have beaten him,No.But in fairness I equally can not say Jones "would" have beaten Benn.After what Benn prevailed through in that tragic but stunning McClellan battle,I was hard pressed to make Jones a lock for a win and if their was a fight to be made,that was the ONE.McClellan was a huge favorite,many picked him to steamroll Benn.....for a moment lets put aside all of the excuses,Rabbit punching,Long count,etc.I am always hesitant to trump that fight up,talk fondly of the win.You just can not,It was a horrible ending,but the fight did happen,and Benn emerged the victor.

    On paper,It appeared a whitewash for Roy.He was faster,deeper in pedigree,emence balance and instinct,really exploited a mans mistakes in embarrassing fashion.If we are talking strictly 168 as mentioned,he faced some guys in Thorton,Pazienza,Brannon etc. who brought forward pressure but NEVER the unbridled two fisted threat and intensity of Benn in that division.Benn could make it rough in there in a way Jones never had to deal with and would keep jones guessing.And I do think that as hard as Jones was to catch clean...I feel that Benn had the arsenal/power to hurt Jones badly.Call it the proverbial "punchers chance" but I think it was more than that & I honestly think Benn had an honest shot, I don't think Jones would be able to get in Benns head ,Ok commence laughter,Im done.
    After the Gerald McClellan fight Nigel Benn was a finished fighter, mentally and physically. Im glad he didn't meet RJJ at that time, he would of been beaten in embarrassing fashion.
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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    I'll bite .Simply put,I think Nigel Benn had a realistic chance of defeating Jones.Can I say he "would" have beaten him,No.But in fairness I equally can not say Jones "would" have beaten Benn.After what Benn prevailed through in that tragic but stunning McClellan battle,I was hard pressed to make Jones a lock for a win and if their was a fight to be made,that was the ONE.McClellan was a huge favorite,many picked him to steamroll Benn.....for a moment lets put aside all of the excuses,Rabbit punching,Long count,etc.I am always hesitant to trump that fight up,talk fondly of the win.You just can not,It was a horrible ending,but the fight did happen,and Benn emerged the victor.

    On paper,It appeared a whitewash for Roy.He was faster,deeper in pedigree,emence balance and instinct,really exploited a mans mistakes in embarrassing fashion.If we are talking strictly 168 as mentioned,he faced some guys in Thorton,Pazienza,Brannon etc. who brought forward pressure but NEVER the unbridled two fisted threat and intensity of Benn in that division.Benn could make it rough in there in a way Jones never had to deal with and would keep jones guessing.And I do think that as hard as Jones was to catch clean...I feel that Benn had the arsenal/power to hurt Jones badly.Call it the proverbial "punchers chance" but I think it was more than that & I honestly think Benn had an honest shot, I don't think Jones would be able to get in Benns head ,Ok commence laughter,Im done.
    After the Gerald McClellan fight Nigel Benn was a finished fighter, mentally and physically. Im glad he didn't meet RJJ at that time, he would of been beaten in embarrassing fashion.
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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Even in his prime, people are forgetting that Benn could hit McClellan. Things change when you can't hit the guy, Roy was extremely hard to hit off the ropes, he was nearly impossible to hit in the middle of the ring. If much faster more accurate guys like Bernard Hopkins and James Toney couldn't hit Jones why would Benn be able to? And he doesn't have that great of a chin, and Roy was one of the best punchers we've seen at 168. Of course I think Benn couldn't hurt Jones, but I don't believe he could badly hurt Jones wtih any one punch, because he would never catch Jones cleanly.

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