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    Default Re: Chad Dawson vs Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Ahhh.. Bilbo you're never gonna get it. So mesmerised by the letters and shiny belts

    Dawson BEAT Tarver to become the IBF champ. That win is solidifying his place at the top of 175 IYO, right?

    What makes Dawson's win over Tarver better than Hopkins? Cause it was for the letters IBF instead of IBO?

    Hopkins had ALREADY beaten Tarver. Tarver WAS the BEST lightheavy when Hopkins beat him. That makes Hopkins the BEST lightheavy. How can it be any other way?

    A lack of star fighters in the division led Hopkins to pursue other avenues. He had already slaughtered Glen Johnson years before.

    Dawson may very well be the best fighter at 175. But he needs to beat the real champ - Calzaghe - to prove it.
    Hopkins beat Tarver. Dawson beat Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, Mendoza, Harding and Ruiz.

    Linear title aside who has done more at 175?

    Let's go over it again.

    Hopkins

    Tarver

    Dawson

    Tarver
    Johnson
    Adamek
    Mendoza
    Harding
    Ruiz

    I say again, DAWSON is the guy at 175 who is winning titles and beating all the light heavyweight champs and contenders.

    Calzaghe may have got the linear title but that's just a nice little history lesson in the how's and when's the mythical belt changed hands.

    In all practical and common sense terms Dawson is the man to beat at 175 in order for Calzaghe to be able to claim he unified two weight classes.
    What's mythical about "the man that beat the man" system?

    I agree with you Dawson is the premier fighter at 175. That was never the debate. It's NOT his alphabet title that makes him top dog though.

    You originally said Calzaghe needs an alphabet to claim he's a two weight champ. That is clearly nonsense. As i said he could have fought Clinton Woods but instead chose Hopkins.
    For history to regard Calzaghe as the undisputed light heavyweight champ he needs to beat Dawson.

    If you disagree just point me in the direction of any fighter in any weight class who has been considered the undisputed champ in a weight class because he beat the man who beat the man in a non title fight but beat nobody else in that weight class?

    And it's not Dawson's 'alphabet titles' that count here, its the fact that he's the only legitimate guy at 175 lbs who is actually seeking to unify the division. He holds two world belts now, IBF and WBC I believe, whihc even though they are just trinkets, is stil half of the belts in the division.
    Last edited by Kev; 11-10-2008 at 12:24 PM.

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