Re: Chad Dawson vs Joe Calzaghe

Originally Posted by
Bilbo

Originally Posted by
Fenster

Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Hopkins beat Tarver. Dawson beat Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, Mendoza, Harding and Ruiz.
Linear title aside who has done more at 175?
Let's go over it again.
Hopkins
Tarver
Dawson
Tarver
Johnson
Adamek
Mendoza
Harding
Ruiz
I say again, DAWSON is the guy at 175 who is winning titles and beating all the light heavyweight champs and contenders.
Calzaghe may have got the linear title but that's just a nice little history lesson in the how's and when's the mythical belt changed hands.
In all practical and common sense terms Dawson is the man to beat at 175 in order for Calzaghe to be able to claim he unified two weight classes.
What's mythical about "the man that beat the man" system?
I agree with you Dawson is the premier fighter at 175. That was never the debate. It's NOT his alphabet title that makes him top dog though.
You originally said Calzaghe needs an alphabet to claim he's a two weight champ. That is clearly nonsense. As i said he could have fought Clinton Woods but instead chose Hopkins.

For history to regard Calzaghe as the undisputed light heavyweight champ he needs to beat Dawson.
If you disagree just point me in the direction of any fighter in any weight class who has been considered the undisputed champ in a weight class because he beat the man who beat the man in a non title fight but beat nobody else in that weight class?
And it's not Dawson's 'alphabet titles' that count here, its the fact that he's the only legitimate guy at 175 lbs who is actually seeking to unify the division. He holds two world belts now, IBF and WBC I believe, whihc even though they are just trinkets, is stil half of the belts in the division.
No - he has just the IBF title. The WBC took their belt back because he decided to fight Tarver instead of Diaconu.
Tell me this - if Dawson and Calzaghe decide to fight for Calzaghe's linear Ring title instead of Dawsons IBF title, should Calzaghe win you would NOT class him as a world champion?
Last edited by Fenster; 11-10-2008 at 12:40 PM.
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