Why does HBO hate on Margarito

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I don't agree with the comments that Margarito was heavily outboxed by Williams. Williams beat Margarito, but I had the fight relatively close. I can't remember my scoring, and Williams won, but Margarito staggered Williams a few times and Williams never hurt Margarito. Also, Margarito looked much better than Phillips or Quintana (second fight) or that middleweight against Williams.

A lot of people don't give Margarito the credit he deserves for destroying Cotto. The argument usually goes like this: Cotto outboxed Margarito for the first half of the fight and had vastly superior skills etc. But, a championship boxing match is twelve rounds! Who cares if Cotto beat him for five? Margarito crushed Cotto in eleven.

Bute and Andrade is a good comparison because Bute was vastly superior to Andrade technically, but Andrade was resilient. At least Bute can claim that he outboxed Andrade for 11 rounds and almost made it to the finish line. Cotto wilted much earlier.

In the end, Margarito doesn't get credit because he lacks technicical skills and speed. However, Margarito makes up for it in stamina, heart, chin, and guts.

Margarito vs Williams was more like 8-4 or 9-3... and He would beat Margarito again, if he can make Welterweight effectively. He didn't allow Margarito to start fast, because Paul was moved too quickly, just like Pavlik Margarito needs you to be right there in order for him to throw punches, he isn't good at moving and punching at the same time, especialyl when angels are giving.

Also destroying a person is what Lewis did to Tyson, what Mayweather did to Gatti. What Calzaghe did to Lacy, what Hopkins did to Trinidad. Margarito stopped Cotto, but he didn't destroy him, it wasn't one sided in his favor until the 11th round. Also Andrade isn't even close to the same monster than Margarito is, while Andrade has a tough chin, he has been dropped recently, and he doesn't walk through punches the same way Margarito does. He kept coming against Kessler, but his punch rate went down, while Tony's speeds up, and the one thing that Margarito has that many pressure fighters don't have and that is he is avery good inside fighter, when he gets his opponent on the ropes he throws great combinations that are hard to predict, and he shortens up his punches.

IMO I think people are making too much of what Margarito did to Cotto, the style matchup favored MArgarito. Ricardo Torres almost stopped Cotto, you can say what you want about how Cotto came back, but in overall besides the 11th round of Cotto-Margarito, Miguel never looked as bad as he did for 2 or 3 rounds against Torres.

Man,I just don't know what fight you were watching .How about a little credit where credit is due?In no way was the Tony/Williams fight a 7 point edge for Williams.Williams was a boxing fool and started fast but Tony is a slow starter from the get go,even in the Cotto fight it was a jabbing contest in the 1st round.I had Williams up by 2 points in a very tight call with Tony coming on strong in the 2nd half and being the far better hitter and forcing the tempo.As for the Cotto fight...it amazes me how many act as if a magical switch was flipped in the late rounds and Cotto just fell apart by his own choosing.....While Cotto was landing the 'ohhh's & ahhh's' punches upstairs,his body attack had been essentially shut down and Margarito was having a major impact on Cottos own body as early as the 2nd round...consistantly and with a big accumliative effect?It was as a graduale and increasing 'destruction' of an undefeated ,improving in quality and championship calibur fighter as Ive seen in years...as opposed to a Tyson vs. Lewis and Gatti vs. Mayweather....one was shot to pieces and the other was being led to the guilotine by one of the top p4p guys around.

Margarito wasn't giving him the body, and Margarito was landing to the body, but he wasn't landing anythign like the punch that stopped Cintron. It wasn't a destruction regardless of what you say, a fight like Foreman-Frazier was a destruction, Chavez-Rosario, Mayweather-Corrales, Roy Jones Jr vs 90% of his opponents, Calzaghe-Lacy, Pacquiao-Barrera I, the list goes on, but this wasn't one of them. A destruction means that you dominate the entire fight and destroy your opponent, its not getting your ass kicked for 6 rounds, but having the chin to walk through it. Of course Margarito was landing punches, but IMO still the most important fact was that Cotto couldn't breathe through his nose because it was clearly broken. Until later on he wasn't effected by any of Margarito shots anywhere near the way he was against Judah, Corley, and Torres. Margarito did land to the body, but they weren't his hardest body shots, and Mosley also went to the body against Cotto to no avail. I've seen it plenty of times where a fighter, hasn't taken all that much damage, but over exert themselves and suddenly take a turn for the worse, and Margarito did to put amazing pressure on Cotto, it wasn't super fast, and he didn't cut off the ring, but Cotto doesn't relax while he is moving, and that really makes it that much more tiring for him to move around. The body shots didn't help, but once again Cotto was landing far better punches over the first half of the fight, and I am aware that Margarito landed as well, but it was Margarito who was frustrated in the first half of the fight.

ANd maybe you should watch the Margarito-Williams fight again, Margarito didn't win most of the second half of the fight it was relatively even, but the first half Paul was beating him with ease, same with Cotto, the only difference is WIlliams could hang on to the lead. Clottey was also easily winning rounds against Margarito until his hands began to hurt, because he clearly stopped throwing punches in situations he was earlier.