Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
Good points, indeed, but keep in mind that Valuev is nothing to write home about. Johnny Ruiz got stiffed in a fight with that Beast.
In truth Valuev is a very poor boxer. He does pose problems because of his sheer size though and for Holyfield to have the conditioning to (imo) overcome him deserves some credit given his age.

You know what I agree, in their first meeting Ruiz outhustled Valuev completely and was never hurt or in danger himself.

Valuev will end up tarnished by his management and gift decisions, just as Primo Carnera was.