Holyfield on Joe Louis "I'd tear him up!"

[Master]

A man can only fight what is in front of him in his era. He left a great legacy that should not be taken lightly. Joe v Holyfield at Cruiserweight who do you think would have won?

[El Kabong]

A man can only fight what is in front of him in his era. He left a great legacy that should not be taken lightly. Joe v Holyfield at Cruiserweight who do you think would have won?

Great post again man, it's crazy the type of crap Louis and Marciano catch all because someone like Ali got blessed not only with great talent but with other great fighters for them to fight.

Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano ducked NOBODY and they are two of the finest champions in the history of boxing



And Joe Louis was just as big as Evander...6'2 76" reach compared to Evander's 6'2 1/2 78" reach

[Mr140]

Lyle you forget the age Holyfeild was when he was losing i mean when Joe was his age he was getting knocked out as well that dont mean shit. Prime for Prime i think Holyfeild would beat Louis out husle him as well he was faster and had a chin that was better then Louis look at the size difference of there competion the 90s was right behind the 70s in competion if you ask me Louis era was a weak one hell he almost lost to lightheavy which was the first time he fought there I have no problem saying Holyfeild could win he fought better competion and was able to win the title back i would favor Holyfeild to win he was better in almost everything i can think of and i dont see why people even care taht much.

[El Kabong]

It's funny how a fighter who wins a bunch had weak opponents whenever it helps a different point of view.


Joe Louis was dominant in a way we have NEVER and possibly will never see. From his loss to Schmeling in 1936 until he lost the title to Ezzard Charles in 1950 he went 34-0-0 with 29 KO's 1 DQ and 4 decisions....that's a hell of a prime of a career for anyone with any opposition.

[Mr140]

Lets not forget he did not fight when he was in the army and could keep his titles not to mention when you are fighting bartenders it is easy to make defences and you call Moorer bad well Schemling was even worse and he was past hime prime as well so i did not get the point not only that he knocked Louis out and dominated him hell Holyfeild with condtion of stiff hart lost by a point and both avenged it but Holyfeild lose was not near as bad let me ask you Lyle do people call Holyfeilds comeption the bum of the month club i think not my friend and there is reason why.

[El Kabong]

Joe fought and beat who was put infront of him....if Holyfield fought as often as Joe Louis did he'd find himself fighting bartenders because he would have gone through all the top heavyweights before the end.


Imagine if Wladimir Klitschko fought 7 times in one year like Joe did in 1941 who would he be fighting?

[Mr140]

I would rather see a guy fight greats then batenders but i know Louis may not had the competion but i not going to use that in putting down Holyfeild because he had a strong divsion to me your only as good as the man that beat and Holyfeild beat men that were great all i can say.

[El Kabong]

I don't doubt Holyfield's greatness, I just think it pales in comparison to Joe Louis'. Just my take, Holyfield is one of the toughest guys to beat hands down....his fight vs Valuev further proves that.

Joe Louis just had an aura about him, I guess kind of like Tyson had an aura around him during his prime but Joe Louis was great (unlike Tyson) and he was great for a long time (unlike Tyson)....if you merged Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield you'd have Joe Louis, he was a power puncher but he could apply pressure and he could also set someone up by using a plethera of punches with power to back them up.

[Master]

If we were talking about the super heavyweights such as Lennox and Vitali I could nearly agree that Joe would not beat modern heavyweights. Holyfield is a smaller heavyweight and would weigh at his best 218lb (if you perceive his best to be when he fought Tyson). If you believe his peak was when he was first champion then it would be around 207lb. Either way that is not much heavier that Joe Louis who superstitiously always tried to weigh below 200lb at his peak. For a fight with Holyfield, Joe would probably come over 200lb.

Holyfield would have to use his boxing skills unless he tried to go for an early KO as Joe could start slowly. Joe however punched harder than Holyfield, his jab, left hook and right cross were very devastating as Ross said, and if he managed to put Holyfield down like Bert Cooper then Joe Loius was one of the best finishers ever.

It is not clear-cut that Holyfield would beat Joe Louis. Holyfield was not that much bigger, did not punch as hard, and was inconsistent.