Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
We all know Joe is superman in your eyes Lyle

But if you look into that competition list a little closer it's not that hot.
Max Baer was a killer puncher, but he was a clown and an inconsistent trainer.
Jim Braddock was a mediocre at best fighter, an over achiever and not even a natural heavyweight.
Joe Walcott I'll give you....The Bomber beat him in his prime.
Ezzard Charles was also great, but a light heavy naturally and suffered severe health problems.
Max Schmeling exposed Louis' defensive shortcomings in their first fight.
Rocky fought an old Joe and administered a savage beating.
Billy Conn was a Light Heavy and Jack Sharkey is hardly a Mike Tyson.
And Evander Holyfield lost to Michael Moorer one of the weakest heavyweight champions of all-time. Evander also lost to flash in the pan Riddick Bowe TWICE and was KO'd by him. Evander also got schooled by Chris Byrd, James Toney, and Larry Donald! Evander lost to JOHN RUIZ.....JOHN FUCKING RUIZ and you're saying he's better than Joe Louis.

Joe Louis lost 3 times...Evander has lost 10 times vs MUCH weaker opposition.