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Yeah no problem buddy, I wouldn't presume to try and win anyone over to my way of thinking, at the end of the day your last sentence said it best.

We are all just blind men groping around looking for a wall to cling to, we cannot ever know how things started and so must ultimately believe through faith.

You're a step ahead of most however by acknowledging that believing in science, is a step of faith as well.

Ultimately we can believe that words in a book purported to be by God are true or we can believe that words of a man in a book are true.

It's faith either way.
OK I guess I'm not quite done. we differ a bit on this point. I know enough about scientific method that I consider believing in it to be a little more than an act of faith. Science to me is almost the opposite of faith. It's ironic isn't it that a belief system based a theory built upon evidence provides less certainty than a theory built on faith. But I do see your point, at some point it is faith, or else we have no knowledge/understanding at all that is outside our direct experience.
Evolutionary science isn't based on scientific method. Scientific method implies observational evidence and repeatable experiments that can be tested and verified.

Regarding evolution no scientists were there to observe it happening in the past, it's too slow a process to observe happening now and no fossils have yet been found for any species, flora or fauna that provide us with any intermediary fossils that document the evolutionary process at all.

In other words, we never saw it happen, we can't find any evidence of it happening, and it's seemingly not happening now.

None of that conforms to scientific method at all. It's pseudo science or quasi religion imo.
ok, we are getting into semantics now. If you don't like the word method, then call it something else. It is observational though. And there is some experimentation, extrapolation, and method involved. But point taken.

I don't agree with the higlighted remarks. The fact is fossils have been found that document an evolution, a progression or advancement if you will, But there are gaps and questions remaining. But if you don't believe the dating technology, then there is not much point in me trying to tell you there is evidence of an evolution, is there?