Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
nobody says that Ali was unbeatable, he retired with 5 losses, Frazier,Norton,Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick.

but no one can deny the fact that he beat a legendary names and did it without the controversy that there is now in boxing

Archie Moore
Henry Cooper (2X)
Sonny Liston (2X)
Floyd Patterson (2X)
George Chuvalo (2X)
Ernie Terrell
Jerry Quarry (2X)
Jimmy Ellis
Buster Mathis
Bob Foster
Ken Norton (2X)
Joe Frazier (2X)
George Foreman
Earnie Shavers
Leon Spinks

tell me one heavy in the last 30 years who has that amount of top talent on his record
So Ali was able to win but he was also blessed with tons of guys to fight. Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano weren't as lucky but 25 successful title defenses and going undefeated speak volumes of greatness.

I really don't rate Ken Norton as all that great of a heavyweight, he was awkward but anytime he was put in with a puncher he got KO'd.

Earnie Shavers wasn't a class heavyweight either, he was just a big puncher, there was nothing else about his game that was amazing.

LEON SPINKS?!?!?! You were arguing FOR Ali being great right

Holyfield and Lewis have very good records and I think they fought top level competition and rarely lost.