lol basic wrestling. simple grappling is too underlooked in the boxing world and im pretty fucking glad you brought it up. being that it is essentially the anti-boxing art. No crowd wants to see guys in the boxing ring headlocking or in an over under tie up. So naturally trainers wont even THINK to teach their fighters the so called poppycock that is wrestling. Am i right Scrap? Trainer Monkey? I havent been to many gyms but thats my assumption.

but now you brought up the subject. i've got questions. Whats the extent of grappling can you do in the amateurs or pros before the Refs they break you? Say, would they allow hitting with the free arm if one was trapped?

Or is it legal to overhook a guys arm and spin him into a corner and then release the hold and punch him? Like how a wrestler or judoka clinches and starts circling his guy off balance? Or kinda like how a pro wrestler swings the other wrestler into the ropes?

I do alot of this in sparring and noone corrects me. So itd be a big help if you could tell me the legalities Chris. Reason being, i believe its an invaluable tool in the ring. So much, that i feel i could turn it into more of a polished art form than what it is right now. If only i knew how far i could go in a clinch before the ref breaks it. or calls it illegal lol.

as you can probablly tell, im a wrestler turned puncher. And i've noticed how effective the subtle things i've learned in wrestling are against a boxer. Such a thing as simple as hooking their arm above their their elbow and under their tricep to neutralize their arm completely. (The guy clinching in the demonstration picture has it all wrong lol) Or basic things such as using circle steps to spin them off balance (a boxer off balance is a dead one). In a way wrestling and boxing are complete opposites. but they also fit each other rightly. hope you get where im coming from.