Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
When did Mosley beat Oscar more clearly than Mayweather? Which fucking fight? The first one he didn't, the second fight which was a more complete Oscar, he didn't even deserve to win that fight, and was outlanded by a large margin. Also that Mosley isn't the one you see today, both of those versions of him possessed a little more speed, and a little more power, I don't think he was a lot worse, but a little bit worse for sure, even though now he is a little better at dealing with the bigger guys.

Vargas was bigger, but severly weight drained especially in the second fight, and he was way past his prime, which he wasn't when he faced Oscar.

Mayorga was bigger than Oscar also, but Oscar has better punching power, and he is a better boxer than Mosley who is primarily speed.

Are you honestly arguing who has the better timing between SHane Mosley and Cotto? Watch their fight again, it was close but Cotto clearly won, and he was badly outtiming Mosley early.

Against Margarito, SHane wasn't fighting off the ropes like Cotto was, once again watch Mosley-COtto, Miguel was landing the much harder punches between them. Shane also muscled Margarito around, which I said Cotto should have done, he was moving Tony around the few times he clinched him, but Mosley was leaning on Margarito, forcing him backwards and landing big punches while Margarito wasn't.

Explain to me how Floyd sapped the energy out of Baldomir, while Judah and Vernon FOrrest who hit harder couldn't make him lose his spirit. Its because not being able to land punches tires you out way faster than landing shots. Thats why Pavlik got so tired against Hopkins.
Shane hit oscar more times than anyone oscar has ever faced in that first fight. And if you're saying that "mosley was a different fighter back then" than surely oscar was a different fighter he was "prime" practically undefeated when he faced mosley. Not some money hungry whore that Floyd faced. And in the second fight mosley was clearly hindered mentally or something by the added muscle and was only throwing one or two punches at a time not one fluid combo. I also thought Oscar won the fight. But nevertheless Shane got the decision. Much Like cotto over shane.

Oh I watched it more than enough to know that shane was hurting miguel much more than he was being hurt, thats why cotto was running the couple of rounds. Which also served as an indicator that he (cotto) probably would tire against Margarito.

what I don't understand is how you're one of the few alone with floyd and his lapdog ellerbe who doesn't think shane is deserving of mega fight. We can go on forever about who we think did better against who and when. But the fact of the matter is this:

SHANE MOSLEY as it stands is the number WW in the world PERIOD. Regardless of what he used to be. Even if he is a shell of the package he once was, the leftover version thoroughly dominated then kayoed the undisputed WW champ Antonio Margarito. No one else at WW can make that claim. Esp not Cotto.