Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
So it would have been more credible for Manny to fight some flat out bum than a smaller but better fighter in Larios? Not like I cared about the Larios fight but at least he knew vaguely what he was doing. Anyway I don't care, I just found that funny.

Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
Well technically he always has been bigger than JMM but I think the criticism of Floyd by some, obviously not all, is that he's looking to fight at welter but not really fight the big strong welters.

Weight and how "big" a guy is is hard to tell from just where they start, Oscar started between 130 and 135 but he's obviously a bigger framed guy than say Chop Corley who started at 140. Even though its an amazing accomplishment that Pacquaio came from 112 to 147 it doesn't mean he's small now, he was a solid 135, probably is a solid 140 pounder and seemed to have some trouble making 130 towards the end.

Floyd I thought looked real solid towards the end of his 140 run and looks like a decently solid welter now. Obviously wouldn't be considered a big strong welter compared to some guys. Was he "bigger" than Sharmba Mitchell or Zab or even Ricky? I don't know, he didn't look smaller or physically at a disadvantage. I think he could look pretty strong against JMM.

Still not sure if I've answered the question.
one look at Floyd and it's easy to see he's no natural welterweight, if anything i'd say he's a natural Lightweight, jr.welter at most
you out done yourself again, so if floyd is a natural lightweight or jr. welterweight then why not fight jmm at those division instead?

Hey was pac avoiding the natural featherweight at the time he fought bantamweight Larios? did he fight Rafeal Marquez instead of Juan Manuel Marquez, or Isreal Vazquez instead of Eric Morales?