Because he beat Pavlik Even I laugh but lets face it that was a "Pavlik is gonna end his career...oh wait Pavlik sucks" type of fight.

Why was Roy's comp far better? Toney helps but it doesn't make it far better.

You think Oscar was a dive? Why even bring that up, its not an arguable point. I think Bernard Hopkins had swine flu and bad socks in the first Roy fight, there were even.

Hopkins if anything played nice with Oscar. Although I just found out today he was getting worked before the stoppage so I don't know

Roy certainly had the edge for a while but Hopkins has passed him over the last ten fights or so IMO. Its not like I think putting Roy ahead of him is some egregious error, its debatable.