Roger could fight,he just had a chin with the predictability of a jack in the box...still don't know how he made it 12 rounds with a streaking Tszyu.Could be caught ugly in the blink of an eye....Pineda,Pendleton,Lockridge,Lovato all one punch KO losses and Brazier all but had him Ko'd.He had one of the better straight right hands in his weight range when he was hot,and could starch or stun many,including Chavez for a moment......Jeff was somewhat a passive boring cutie who never found the next step up.