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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    First of all I am as big of a Pacquiao supporter as anyone on here, people said I was a nuthugger, but now that Pacquiao has emphatically proven himself an ATG, at least top 15 ever. After watching both Mayweather-marquez and Pacquiao-Cotto live, I know that Manny won't beat Floyd.

    1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

    2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

    3rd: Speed. Now they are both the same speed, but Manny relies on being faster way more than Mayweather, thats why the faster the opponent's hands and/or feet are the harder of a time Manny has with them.

    4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches, I think Marquez demonstrated this far more accutely in their two fights. I think Judah gave Cotto less problems than Manny because Cotto can be hit, but you need to throw punches to hit somebody, and Judah doesn't throw enough punches. I think Judah in terms of landing solidly would give Mayweather more problems than Pacquiao because against Mayweather its about landing that tight left cross as a counter puncher that does the trick, and Manny doesn't have that punch. Manny whole style and stance doesn't allow for him to catch somebody coming in with the left cross effectively. He either flurries back or counters with the right hook which Floyd would easily dodge.

    Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.
    I've seen threads "Why Manny can't beat Oscar"? "Why Manny can't beat Hatton"? 'Why Manny can't beat Cotto" ? My question is can Floyd beat Manny? So many people on this forum have not believed in Pacquaio (including me) and yet he proves us wrong each time. Manny Pacquaio has the best chance yet of beating Floyd Mayweather, it will be a helluva fight and Floyd will have to be at the very top of his game to withstand the onslaught that he will be getting from Manny Pacquaio. I believe PBF to be the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, he will need all of this skill to hold off and beat Manny Pacquaio. If Manny hits him then things get really interesting.
    I've seen the same threads for Mayweather who proved them wrong each time, and he fought a better Hatton and a better De La HOya and just like Pacquiao-Marquez their styles work way better against orthodox fighters. Hatton has always had troubles with southpaws and getting hit by the right hook coming in, which totally unravelled his game plan, and Oscar was shot. I still think what Manny did was incredible, but it wasn't the same guys that fought Mayweather. Oscar didn't throw any of his punches with any life behind them.

    I dare anyone to try and tell me that the Oscar who fought Floyd wouldn't have given Manny all he could handle, or that the OScar who fought Manny would have done as well against Floyd at 147.

    I am stating my opinion now and it will be proven when they face eachother. If Manny had a Joe Calzaghe's style with his power and speed then I think it would be a different story, but Joe throws a lot more punches and has better defensive instincts, and he forces you to back up if you are anything but an all out brawler.
    Last edited by Taeth; 11-19-2009 at 12:37 AM.

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