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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    1. Mayweather has a way better chin than Hatton or Cotto and he's 10x harder to hit cleanly.

    2. Watch Mayweather any other southpaw.

    3. Pacquiao didn't stand there against Marquez, who hit him continually with ease. That same Marquez is slower, smaller, and less accurate than Mayweather as was painfully evident in their fight.

    4. Larry Merchant is a fucking idiot. When Cotto was coming forward and staying cautious he was beating Manny, when he opened up tried to trade, he was getting beaten up by Manny.
    1. Are you sure on How floyd will react after Manny hit him? My guest same as the others. Whats your guess?

    2. Ive watched it. Did he back JUdah up the entire fight? Did Zab had early success?

    3. Pacquiao didnt stand there he seek him. JMM waited and had some moments.

    Just stating facts : JMM-PAC 2 @130 Floyd-JMM @144 Floyd came at 146. Comparing these 2 fights is definately irrelevant.

    4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.
    Lol, you guys are acting like if Manny only got hit when he wanted to.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.
    Lol, you guys are acting like if Manny only got hit when he wanted to.
    lol

    thats not it. he didnt need half the punishment he took.

    Im just saying Manny tried something else which allows cotto to do his thing.

    I got this idea from pac himself in an interview. he said 3 things

    1. He stood there to test the power of a welterweight
    2. He pretended that it didnt bother him but he got hurt a few times
    3. He wants to prove that he's stronger (I dont know why but he likes to do that)

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.
    Exactly. Marquez is the second best counter puncher in the world and because of that he gave Pac hell, and who is he second to? You guessed it, Floyd Mayweather, difference is Mayweather is twice as fast, a lot bigger, 10 times more elusive and finally and most importantly the best boxer in the world bar none, including Pac.

    I honestly think Mayweather will potshot Pac into defeat and I even see the accumulation of shots being too much for Pac and the fight being stopped late on!

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.
    Exactly. Marquez is the second best counter puncher in the world and because of that he gave Pac hell, and who is he second to? You guessed it, Floyd Mayweather, difference is Mayweather is twice as fast, a lot bigger, 10 times more elusive and finally and most importantly the best boxer in the world bar none, including Pac.

    I honestly think Mayweather will potshot Pac into defeat and I even see the accumulation of shots being too much for Pac and the fight being stopped late on!
    Marquez is the best counterpouncher in LW below no doubt as Roach says if the fight will held at 140 it show the difference.

    Look what happens to Marquez at 140 and above? SLOW even didnt hurt Mayweather

    Fight Style make fights Floyd has a problems Lefties likes with Corley or Judah, In Judah in the 1st few rounds got nailed Floyd in a flash knockdown but it was counted off , but Judah was not continue his will at the second half.

    Hatton was really lost his sheild in 1st attempt in Welters in Collazo
    Agree he was the same when was pitted to Mayweather at 147 but in reality Collazo was the one exposed it not Mayweather

    Lastly Hatton was undefeated at 140 remember and Pacman nail him coming at Lightweight division

    Floyd is far the technical boxer ovious but to me he has gone since the last with Coralles fight.Nothing good after that.

    Come on dont count Baldomir as best welters on that time he has 11 losses already why he should fight Cotto who was WBO 140 champion on that time or even 147 or even fight Margarito, he was offered $8M by that time. Also PWilliams was the champion on that time.

    Can you give me the best 140 - 147 that Floyd beat that technically good? i cant count on Gatti or Mitchell or even Baldo? Tho Judah was not the same fighter when beaten by points by Baldomir. ODLH is for money and Hatton is over his limit of 147 he was best at 140.

    We cant compare really because Mayweather has no real fight at 140-147 comparison with Pacman but basing on Judah with Cotto, FMJ with Hatton and FLoyd with ODLH...its really a 50-50 for both of them. For me I guess a more chance really to win for Pacman.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    This is why because Floyd has pure boxing skills and look at Pacquiao vs Marquez remove the knockdowns and go just on the boxing Marquez won twice and same with Morales 1. Floyd is all wrong for Pacquiao he will win easy cos he is a far better boxer than either of them 2 Pacquiao has improved slightly in last 20 months since last Marquez fight but not much.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    lol no matter how you praise your own precious Floyd Mayweather Jr.


    Manny Pacquiao is still the better fighter and above Mayweather Jr. right now. unless he proves it by fighting elite fighters.

    Mayweather's keep talking sh*t. Asking high split against pacman means he don't want to fight the guy.

    Anyway stop comparing the fight between Marquez because that's garbage now.

    Pacquiao is a complete monster fighter.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    This is why because Floyd has pure boxing skills and look at Pacquiao vs Marquez remove the knockdowns and go just on the boxing Marquez won twice and same with Morales 1. Floyd is all wrong for Pacquiao he will win easy cos he is a far better boxer than either of them 2 Pacquiao has improved slightly in last 20 months since last Marquez fight but not much.
    Are you the one who picked Cotto to destroy Pacman?

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    THESE ARE TRUE FACTS NOT OPINIONS

    pacman cudnt fight cotto on the outside everytime he threw a jab cotto would explode with fast powerful combos you cant fight cotto on the outside you more or less run into a brick wall hes too big too powerful. this is the reason why manny fought on the inside toe to toe with the bomber from peoterico. ON THE OUTSIDE MANNY PUNCHES WOULD NEVER HURT COTTO MANNY KNEW THIS IN AN INSTANCE AND DECIDEED HE NEED TO PLANT HIS FOOT DOWN AND SWING WITH POWER (TOE TO TOE)

    knowing this you may say pacman isnt a good boxer he will lose agsint flloyd but you are wrong.

    FLLOYD NEVER FOUGHT COTTO FOR A REASON flloyd always says its about the money. cotto had no problems giving manny the bigger share of the ppv buys. cotto had no problems with the catch weight cotto had no problems acepting the fight. if flloyd ever thought he could beat cotto he would have surely faced cotto himself. but he never so this proves to flloyd himself that HE COULD NEVER FIGHT COTTO ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

    THE FACT IS THAT FLLOYD DIDNT FIGHT COTTO MAGRITO OR MOSELY BEACUSE HE KNOWS HIS JABS WILL JUST BOUNCE OFF AND THEY WUD JUST KEEP ON COMMING PRESSUREING HIM ( U SEE THIS IN THE DELA HOYA FIGHT) IF IT WAS COTTO FIGHTING MAYWHEATHER THAT NIGHT COTTO WOULD HAVE CRUSHED HIM MANNY DID MAYWHEATER A GOOD FAVOUR TAKING COTTO OUT OF THE EQUATION

    MANNY HAS FOUGHT JABBERS ALL HIS LIFE MORALES BERRERA DELAHOYA HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT JAB EVERYTIME SOMEONE JABS HIM IN THE FACE HE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO COUNTER AND A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. IN THE COTTO FIGHT COTTO WAS LANDING THE JAB ON ROUND 1 MANNY WAS MEASUREING IT. IT LED COTTO INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY U EVEN HEAR HIS TRAINER TELLING HIM TO JAB. IF COTTO IN ROUND 1 WAS LANDING JABS WHY DIDNT HE LAND JABS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT. THE COTTO JABS WERE GETTING COTTO INTO TROUBLE (WATCH THE FIGHT) MANNY WAS LANDING HARD RIGHT HOOKS EVERYTIME COTTO THREW A JAB

    IF FLLOYD IS LOOKING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE AND JAB ALL NIGHT HE WILL GET CAUGHT MANNY ALWAYS FIND A WAY INSIDE AND FLLOYDS JAB ISNT AS HARD AS COTTO LEAD LEFT HAND JAB TRUST ME FLLOYDS JAB WILL BOUNCE OFF MANNY LIKE NOTHING AND MANNY WILL KEEP ON COMMING FORWARD PRESSUREING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM WITH HIS POWER SOMTHING DELAHOYA NEVER HAD

    THESE ARE ALL FACTS

    I HAVENT BEEN WATCHING BOXING LONG BUT I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT

    THIS IS WUT WILL HAPEN IF FLOYD FIGHTS MANNY FLOYD. FLOYDS EXTRA ARM REACH WILL JAB MANNY EARLY ON IT LOOKS SO BAD FOR MANNY BUT IN REALITY MANNY FEELS NOHTING. FLLOYD WILL TEST MANNY BRINGING HIS RIGHT HAND INTO THE FIGHT. FAST QUICK RIGHT HANDS BUT MANNY AVOIDS THEM. FLLOYD PLAYS IT SAFE BOXING AND THROWING JABS BUT MANNY MANAGES SLIP AND COUNTER CATCHES FLOYD FLUSH THE CROWD ROAR FLOYDS SMILES BUT KEEPS ON BOXING MANNY PRESSURES MORE MOVING ON HIS TOES SWINGING WITH BOTH HANDS AND PULLING BACK CATCHES FLLOYD WITH A FEW SHOTS THE CROWD ROAR FLOYD SENSES MANY IS WINNING THE ROUNDS FLOYD CHANGES HIS MODE TO MORE AGRESSIVE FIGHTING WITH MANY IN THE CENTER OF THE RINNG FLOYDS HITS MANNY WITH MORE JABS BUT MANNY DOESNT GIVE A FUCK. THEY TRADE IN THE CENTER MANNY IS STARTING TO CATCH FLLOYD FLUSH BACKS HIM IN THE CORNER AND UNLOADS FURIOUS HANDS THE FIGHT IS OVER MANNY TKO'S FLLOYD

    THIS IS FACTS

    WHAT I REALLY THINK WILL HAPEN IS FLLOYD WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY JUST LIKE HE NEVER FOUGHT COTTO MAGARIOTO MOSLEY AND PAUL WILLIAMS THE MONEY IS THERE THERE ARE NO EXUCSES IF THIS FIGHT DOESNT HAPPEN ITS COS FLLOYD NEVER INTENDED IT TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PACMANS FIGHTS ALWAYS THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT FLLOYD PACMAN DID WHAT FLLOYD NEVER DID AND FOUGHT A BIG PUNCHING WELTER WEIGHT CORRALES WAS GIVING HIM TROUBLE AND WALKING HIM DOWN WHAT DO U THINK COTTO WUD DO TO MAYWHEATER
    EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY IS THE FACE OF BOXING EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY DESERVES THE BIGGER SHARE OF THE FIGHT IF IT EVER HAPPENS. BUT MANNY IS JUST AS COURAGES IN THE RING AS OUTSIDE IT HE IS WILLING TO TAKE A 50 50% AGSAINT FLLOYD I AM CONFIDENT AND SO IS MANNY CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BEAT HIM THAT HE WUD TAKE A 50 50
    YOU CAN NOT SAY THE SAME ABOUT FLLOYD HE WILL NOT FIGHT PACMAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryelephant View Post
    THESE ARE TRUE FACTS NOT OPINIONS

    pacman cudnt fight cotto on the outside everytime he threw a jab cotto would explode with fast powerful combos you cant fight cotto on the outside you more or less run into a brick wall hes too big too powerful. this is the reason why manny fought on the inside toe to toe with the bomber from peoterico. ON THE OUTSIDE MANNY PUNCHES WOULD NEVER HURT COTTO MANNY KNEW THIS IN AN INSTANCE AND DECIDEED HE NEED TO PLANT HIS FOOT DOWN AND SWING WITH POWER (TOE TO TOE)

    knowing this you may say pacman isnt a good boxer he will lose agsint flloyd but you are wrong.

    FLLOYD NEVER FOUGHT COTTO FOR A REASON flloyd always says its about the money. cotto had no problems giving manny the bigger share of the ppv buys. cotto had no problems with the catch weight cotto had no problems acepting the fight. if flloyd ever thought he could beat cotto he would have surely faced cotto himself. but he never so this proves to flloyd himself that HE COULD NEVER FIGHT COTTO ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

    THE FACT IS THAT FLLOYD DIDNT FIGHT COTTO MAGRITO OR MOSELY BEACUSE HE KNOWS HIS JABS WILL JUST BOUNCE OFF AND THEY WUD JUST KEEP ON COMMING PRESSUREING HIM ( U SEE THIS IN THE DELA HOYA FIGHT) IF IT WAS COTTO FIGHTING MAYWHEATHER THAT NIGHT COTTO WOULD HAVE CRUSHED HIM MANNY DID MAYWHEATER A GOOD FAVOUR TAKING COTTO OUT OF THE EQUATION

    MANNY HAS FOUGHT JABBERS ALL HIS LIFE MORALES BERRERA DELAHOYA HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT JAB EVERYTIME SOMEONE JABS HIM IN THE FACE HE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO COUNTER AND A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. IN THE COTTO FIGHT COTTO WAS LANDING THE JAB ON ROUND 1 MANNY WAS MEASUREING IT. IT LED COTTO INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY U EVEN HEAR HIS TRAINER TELLING HIM TO JAB. IF COTTO IN ROUND 1 WAS LANDING JABS WHY DIDNT HE LAND JABS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT. THE COTTO JABS WERE GETTING COTTO INTO TROUBLE (WATCH THE FIGHT) MANNY WAS LANDING HARD RIGHT HOOKS EVERYTIME COTTO THREW A JAB

    IF FLLOYD IS LOOKING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE AND JAB ALL NIGHT HE WILL GET CAUGHT MANNY ALWAYS FIND A WAY INSIDE AND FLLOYDS JAB ISNT AS HARD AS COTTO LEAD LEFT HAND JAB TRUST ME FLLOYDS JAB WILL BOUNCE OFF MANNY LIKE NOTHING AND MANNY WILL KEEP ON COMMING FORWARD PRESSUREING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM WITH HIS POWER SOMTHING DELAHOYA NEVER HAD

    THESE ARE ALL FACTS

    I HAVENT BEEN WATCHING BOXING LONG BUT I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT

    THIS IS WUT WILL HAPEN IF FLOYD FIGHTS MANNY FLOYD. FLOYDS EXTRA ARM REACH WILL JAB MANNY EARLY ON IT LOOKS SO BAD FOR MANNY BUT IN REALITY MANNY FEELS NOHTING. FLLOYD WILL TEST MANNY BRINGING HIS RIGHT HAND INTO THE FIGHT. FAST QUICK RIGHT HANDS BUT MANNY AVOIDS THEM. FLLOYD PLAYS IT SAFE BOXING AND THROWING JABS BUT MANNY MANAGES SLIP AND COUNTER CATCHES FLOYD FLUSH THE CROWD ROAR FLOYDS SMILES BUT KEEPS ON BOXING MANNY PRESSURES MORE MOVING ON HIS TOES SWINGING WITH BOTH HANDS AND PULLING BACK CATCHES FLLOYD WITH A FEW SHOTS THE CROWD ROAR FLOYD SENSES MANY IS WINNING THE ROUNDS FLOYD CHANGES HIS MODE TO MORE AGRESSIVE FIGHTING WITH MANY IN THE CENTER OF THE RINNG FLOYDS HITS MANNY WITH MORE JABS BUT MANNY DOESNT GIVE A FUCK. THEY TRADE IN THE CENTER MANNY IS STARTING TO CATCH FLLOYD FLUSH BACKS HIM IN THE CORNER AND UNLOADS FURIOUS HANDS THE FIGHT IS OVER MANNY TKO'S FLLOYD

    THIS IS FACTS

    WHAT I REALLY THINK WILL HAPEN IS FLLOYD WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY JUST LIKE HE NEVER FOUGHT COTTO MAGARIOTO MOSLEY AND PAUL WILLIAMS THE MONEY IS THERE THERE ARE NO EXUCSES IF THIS FIGHT DOESNT HAPPEN ITS COS FLLOYD NEVER INTENDED IT TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PACMANS FIGHTS ALWAYS THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT FLLOYD PACMAN DID WHAT FLLOYD NEVER DID AND FOUGHT A BIG PUNCHING WELTER WEIGHT CORRALES WAS GIVING HIM TROUBLE AND WALKING HIM DOWN WHAT DO U THINK COTTO WUD DO TO MAYWHEATER
    EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY IS THE FACE OF BOXING EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY DESERVES THE BIGGER SHARE OF THE FIGHT IF IT EVER HAPPENS. BUT MANNY IS JUST AS COURAGES IN THE RING AS OUTSIDE IT HE IS WILLING TO TAKE A 50 50% AGSAINT FLLOYD I AM CONFIDENT AND SO IS MANNY CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BEAT HIM THAT HE WUD TAKE A 50 50
    YOU CAN NOT SAY THE SAME ABOUT FLLOYD HE WILL NOT FIGHT PACMAN


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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    PAC NEEDS TO STUDY HARD IF HE WANTS 2 WIN. IT WONT BE EASY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=din0rds-EfI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a7x-WZYHZI

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

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