Why Manny can't beat Floyd

[miron_lang]

1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

One shot. And the complexion of the game can turn in pac's favor. Work rate mate. Floyd can run. but can he run for 12 rounds?

2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

Are you sure about this? Floyd coming forward? againts Pacquiao? You must be thinking of someone else

4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches

He had success because because Manny stood there and tested the left hooks and uppecuts. For Psy purposes if i may state

Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.

uLOL that wont happen hahahha

Back him up at your own risk - Larry Merchant

[Taeth]

1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

One shot. And the complexion of the game can turn in pac's favor. Work rate mate. Floyd can run. but can he run for 12 rounds?

2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

Are you sure about this? Floyd coming forward? againts Pacquiao? You must be thinking of someone else

4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches

He had success because because Manny stood there and tested the left hooks and uppecuts. For Psy purposes if i may state

Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.

uLOL that wont happen hahahha

Back him up at your own risk - Larry Merchant

1. Mayweather has a way better chin than Hatton or Cotto and he's 10x harder to hit cleanly.

2. Watch Mayweather any other southpaw.

3. Pacquiao didn't stand there against Marquez, who hit him continually with ease. That same Marquez is slower, smaller, and less accurate than Mayweather as was painfully evident in their fight.

4. Larry Merchant is a fucking idiot. When Cotto was coming forward and staying cautious he was beating Manny, when he opened up tried to trade, he was getting beaten up by Manny.

[miron_lang]

1. Mayweather has a way better chin than Hatton or Cotto and he's 10x harder to hit cleanly.

2. Watch Mayweather any other southpaw.

3. Pacquiao didn't stand there against Marquez, who hit him continually with ease. That same Marquez is slower, smaller, and less accurate than Mayweather as was painfully evident in their fight.

4. Larry Merchant is a fucking idiot. When Cotto was coming forward and staying cautious he was beating Manny, when he opened up tried to trade, he was getting beaten up by Manny.

1. Are you sure on How floyd will react after Manny hit him? My guest same as the others. Whats your guess?

2. Ive watched it. Did he back JUdah up the entire fight? Did Zab had early success?

3. Pacquiao didnt stand there he seek him. JMM waited and had some moments.

Just stating facts : JMM-PAC 2 @130 Floyd-JMM @144 Floyd came at 146. Comparing these 2 fights is definately irrelevant.

4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.

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4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.

Lol, you guys are acting like if Manny only got hit when he wanted to.

[miron_lang]

4. No he's not. He's getting paid doing what we're doing for free (Discussing boxing). I repeat Manny let cotto hit him to test his power and psy him up.

Lol, you guys are acting like if Manny only got hit when he wanted to.

lol

thats not it. he didnt need half the punishment he took.

Im just saying Manny tried something else which allows cotto to do his thing.

I got this idea from pac himself in an interview. he said 3 things

1. He stood there to test the power of a welterweight
2. He pretended that it didnt bother him but he got hurt a few times
3. He wants to prove that he's stronger (I dont know why but he likes to do that)

[blegit]

I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.

[rjj tszyu]

I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.

Exactly. Marquez is the second best counter puncher in the world and because of that he gave Pac hell, and who is he second to? You guessed it, Floyd Mayweather, difference is Mayweather is twice as fast, a lot bigger, 10 times more elusive and finally and most importantly the best boxer in the world bar none, including Pac.

I honestly think Mayweather will potshot Pac into defeat and I even see the accumulation of shots being too much for Pac and the fight being stopped late on!

[larryelephant]

THESE ARE TRUE FACTS NOT OPINIONS

pacman cudnt fight cotto on the outside everytime he threw a jab cotto would explode with fast powerful combos you cant fight cotto on the outside you more or less run into a brick wall hes too big too powerful. this is the reason why manny fought on the inside toe to toe with the bomber from peoterico. ON THE OUTSIDE MANNY PUNCHES WOULD NEVER HURT COTTO MANNY KNEW THIS IN AN INSTANCE AND DECIDEED HE NEED TO PLANT HIS FOOT DOWN AND SWING WITH POWER (TOE TO TOE)

knowing this you may say pacman isnt a good boxer he will lose agsint flloyd but you are wrong.

FLLOYD NEVER FOUGHT COTTO FOR A REASON flloyd always says its about the money. cotto had no problems giving manny the bigger share of the ppv buys. cotto had no problems with the catch weight cotto had no problems acepting the fight. if flloyd ever thought he could beat cotto he would have surely faced cotto himself. but he never so this proves to flloyd himself that HE COULD NEVER FIGHT COTTO ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

THE FACT IS THAT FLLOYD DIDNT FIGHT COTTO MAGRITO OR MOSELY BEACUSE HE KNOWS HIS JABS WILL JUST BOUNCE OFF AND THEY WUD JUST KEEP ON COMMING PRESSUREING HIM ( U SEE THIS IN THE DELA HOYA FIGHT) IF IT WAS COTTO FIGHTING MAYWHEATHER THAT NIGHT COTTO WOULD HAVE CRUSHED HIM MANNY DID MAYWHEATER A GOOD FAVOUR TAKING COTTO OUT OF THE EQUATION

MANNY HAS FOUGHT JABBERS ALL HIS LIFE MORALES BERRERA DELAHOYA HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT JAB EVERYTIME SOMEONE JABS HIM IN THE FACE HE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO COUNTER AND A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. IN THE COTTO FIGHT COTTO WAS LANDING THE JAB ON ROUND 1 MANNY WAS MEASUREING IT. IT LED COTTO INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY U EVEN HEAR HIS TRAINER TELLING HIM TO JAB. IF COTTO IN ROUND 1 WAS LANDING JABS WHY DIDNT HE LAND JABS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT. THE COTTO JABS WERE GETTING COTTO INTO TROUBLE (WATCH THE FIGHT) MANNY WAS LANDING HARD RIGHT HOOKS EVERYTIME COTTO THREW A JAB

IF FLLOYD IS LOOKING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE AND JAB ALL NIGHT HE WILL GET CAUGHT MANNY ALWAYS FIND A WAY INSIDE AND FLLOYDS JAB ISNT AS HARD AS COTTO LEAD LEFT HAND JAB TRUST ME FLLOYDS JAB WILL BOUNCE OFF MANNY LIKE NOTHING AND MANNY WILL KEEP ON COMMING FORWARD PRESSUREING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM WITH HIS POWER SOMTHING DELAHOYA NEVER HAD

THESE ARE ALL FACTS

I HAVENT BEEN WATCHING BOXING LONG BUT I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT

THIS IS WUT WILL HAPEN IF FLOYD FIGHTS MANNY FLOYD. FLOYDS EXTRA ARM REACH WILL JAB MANNY EARLY ON IT LOOKS SO BAD FOR MANNY BUT IN REALITY MANNY FEELS NOHTING. FLLOYD WILL TEST MANNY BRINGING HIS RIGHT HAND INTO THE FIGHT. FAST QUICK RIGHT HANDS BUT MANNY AVOIDS THEM. FLLOYD PLAYS IT SAFE BOXING AND THROWING JABS BUT MANNY MANAGES SLIP AND COUNTER CATCHES FLOYD FLUSH THE CROWD ROAR FLOYDS SMILES BUT KEEPS ON BOXING MANNY PRESSURES MORE MOVING ON HIS TOES SWINGING WITH BOTH HANDS AND PULLING BACK CATCHES FLLOYD WITH A FEW SHOTS THE CROWD ROAR FLOYD SENSES MANY IS WINNING THE ROUNDS FLOYD CHANGES HIS MODE TO MORE AGRESSIVE FIGHTING WITH MANY IN THE CENTER OF THE RINNG FLOYDS HITS MANNY WITH MORE JABS BUT MANNY DOESNT GIVE A FUCK. THEY TRADE IN THE CENTER MANNY IS STARTING TO CATCH FLLOYD FLUSH BACKS HIM IN THE CORNER AND UNLOADS FURIOUS HANDS THE FIGHT IS OVER MANNY TKO'S FLLOYD

THIS IS FACTS

WHAT I REALLY THINK WILL HAPEN IS FLLOYD WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY JUST LIKE HE NEVER FOUGHT COTTO MAGARIOTO MOSLEY AND PAUL WILLIAMS THE MONEY IS THERE THERE ARE NO EXUCSES IF THIS FIGHT DOESNT HAPPEN ITS COS FLLOYD NEVER INTENDED IT TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PACMANS FIGHTS ALWAYS THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT FLLOYD PACMAN DID WHAT FLLOYD NEVER DID AND FOUGHT A BIG PUNCHING WELTER WEIGHT CORRALES WAS GIVING HIM TROUBLE AND WALKING HIM DOWN WHAT DO U THINK COTTO WUD DO TO MAYWHEATER
EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY IS THE FACE OF BOXING EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY DESERVES THE BIGGER SHARE OF THE FIGHT IF IT EVER HAPPENS. BUT MANNY IS JUST AS COURAGES IN THE RING AS OUTSIDE IT HE IS WILLING TO TAKE A 50 50% AGSAINT FLLOYD I AM CONFIDENT AND SO IS MANNY CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BEAT HIM THAT HE WUD TAKE A 50 50
YOU CAN NOT SAY THE SAME ABOUT FLLOYD HE WILL NOT FIGHT PACMAN

[terrorsid]

PAC NEEDS TO STUDY HARD IF HE WANTS 2 WIN. IT WONT BE EASY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=din0rds-EfI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a7x-WZYHZI

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Test

[DaxxKahn]

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1. Mayweather has a way better chin than Hatton or Cotto and he's 10x harder to hit cleanly.

2. Watch Mayweather any other southpaw.

3. Pacquiao didn't stand there against Marquez, who hit him continually with ease. That same Marquez is slower, smaller, and less accurate than Mayweather as was painfully evident in their fight.

4. Larry Merchant is a fucking idiot. When Cotto was coming forward and staying cautious he was beating Manny, when he opened up tried to trade, he was getting beaten up by Manny.[/quote]


Mayweather has a better chin then Cotto? How do we know this? When has Floyds chin really been tested? Floyd like Roy Jones in his prime does not get hit enough to know what his chin is really like.

[Taeth]

1. Mayweather has a way better chin than Hatton or Cotto and he's 10x harder to hit cleanly.

2. Watch Mayweather any other southpaw.

3. Pacquiao didn't stand there against Marquez, who hit him continually with ease. That same Marquez is slower, smaller, and less accurate than Mayweather as was painfully evident in their fight.

4. Larry Merchant is a fucking idiot. When Cotto was coming forward and staying cautious he was beating Manny, when he opened up tried to trade, he was getting beaten up by Manny.[/quote]


Mayweather has a better chin then Cotto? How do we know this? When has Floyds chin really been tested? Floyd like Roy Jones in his prime does not get hit enough to know what his chin is really like.[/quote]

He got hit by the same punch as Cotto did against a far fresher version of Corley, and was far less hurt.
2. He took a clean left hook at the end of 12 rounds against De La Hoya with no problems.
3. He took Judah's power way better than Cotto did, and Judah looked way sharper when he faced Mayweather.
4. Mayweather as champion has been slighly stunned once(against Demarcus Corley). Cotto has been stunned numerous times at 140 and 147(to a lesser degree).

All in all there is no question that Mayweather has a far better chin than Cotto.