Lucian Bute

[Kev]

I go with ICB there, I did look at this fight countless time and beside one round, perhaps 2 if I am very generous (including the 12th), I objectively don't see which ones Andrade could have possibly won. Can you really tell me that you've really seen Andrade winning 4 rounds in this fight? He got battered all fight long till the 12th where he almost got the k.o (that's the part where we do disagree if I recall ).

I've watched it and I see three rounds for him, although I could give him four. But, are you honestly going to say the judges were biased against Bute? He most certainly didn't win every round, that's one of those myths that comes with the fight not being fresh. It's like the 'Shane battered Margarito for the whole 9 rounds', when Margarito actually probably won the 5th round.

So just because Antonio Margarito, may have won one round. That makes it not a complete wipeout ? unless im reading that wrong ?

IMO Shane Mosley did totally dominate Antonio Margarito. He let his foot off the gas in one round, but again Antonio Margarito's punches were very ineffective.

He did batter Antonio Margarito for pretty much the whole fight, and even in the one debatable round. Shane Mosley still stung Antonio Margarito, and landed the much better punches.

I'll tell you a fight that was seriously overrated, to regards of another fighter suposedly dominating another fighter. And thats James Toney vs Michael Nunn.

Michael Nunn won the early rounds, but James Toney was coming on late. And he had won 3 rounds in a row, aswell as winning the 11th round. Before he even KO'ed Michael Nunn in the 11th round.

Everyone makes out it was some kind of lucky punch, from James Toney when it clearly wasn't. It was James Toney wearing him down late.

But you could say the same about Froch against Taylor, and even the first Andrade Bute fight.

Either Bute is completely glass jawed and got ko'd the first and only time Andrade landed anything, or else Andrade was being effective and getting to Bute prior to the 12th round in order to exhaust him.

It can't work both ways.

Bute is a good fighter but he's got a big question mark over his durability imo. I can't think of any fighter in history who has almost got knocked out like he did in that last round against a limited opponent who hasn't then gone on to have stamina and late round issues in future fights.

He's always going to have that vulnurability, just like Jermain Taylor, Cory Spinks etc.

He will still win fights, maybe some against top opposition but that's not going to go away.

If he gets into a dog fight with a Froch, Abraham or Pascal, the last rounds are going to be very difficult for him.

Yes he's looked great since against mediocre opposition, but he hasn't gone past 5 rounds so his stamina hasn't been on display.

He will crumble and get knocked out AT LEAST 3 times in his career if he fights on for the next 5 years or so.

I said the same about Miranda, after he fought Alan Green that he'd be knocked out at least 6 times by the time his career was over, and that's well on the way to fruition.

Not claiming I have anything like Taeth level boxing understanding, I just like to talk negatively about the fighters I don't like, and then if I'm proved right, Mijares, and soon to be Donaire etc, I like to create a gleeful little post pointing out how cool I am.