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Unless he has simply thought fuck the catch weight? Maybe he just plans on coming in heavier and paying the penalty.

Unlikely, but could be
Martinez has never struggled with weight. In the Williams Martinez fight he rehydrated about 6lbs and in the Pavlik fight it was even less.

I can lose 12 lbs of water weight in a day, and I weight 145. A professional athlete and I had to lose 20lbs in 4 weeks, that makes it come down to about 2lbs a week, which is a lot more doable.

Martinez is not like Mayweather. A fighter who lures a Featherweight to "catchweight Welter" and bends the scales while laughing it off. I mean that was about the lowest you can go in my book. He's no better than Joan Guzman.

Martinez has character, and he shows up to work with his gloves because they make him wear them. They still gotta remind Mayweather to take his wife-beater (for you brits this is a style of shirt for us cookie americans. just watch the jersey shore. That's all the guys wear) off I guess when goes anywhere....

I am shocked more people are not excited about this fight. This is my second fight I am going to this year. Last was Martinez-Pavlik. He won a lot of fans that night. He's my favorite champ right now. Who will he NOT fight Tell you this much. He'd beat mayweather's ass to a pulp.
Mayweather would destroy Martinez... Who are you trying to kid? Martinez plays everything off just speed, he never sits on his punches, he literally relies on athleticism more than Roy Jones or Gamboa, but he doesn't have their instincts or skill. Mayweather would absolutely pick him apart. Both Williams and Martinez are way too highly ranked, and given way too much credit. I do think they are really talented fighters, but Paul WIlliams is no Hearns caliber tall guy he just a tall good athlete who throws and lot of arm punches and is wide open defenisvely, and Martinez is no Mayweather, Pacquiao level speed guy. He has none of the killer instinct, power, and combinations of Pacquiao, and none of Mayweather's defensive genius, instincts, and timing.
I disagree that Martinez is too highly ranked. Martinez beat the middleweight champion of the world at the same time he was holding the junior middleweight champion belt. He has fought prime versions of Cintron, Williams, Pavlik, Williams II in his last four fights. He fought Williams when most people said Williams was the most feared fighter on the planet. Shane and Floyd wouldn't fight Williams. Even Pavlik, whether his reason to not fight was true, wouldn't fight him.

Think about it. Mayweather has fought Ricky Hatton who regularly fought at 140 (at 147), Marquez who regularly fought at 130-135 (at 147), and a 38-year old Shane Mosley (personally, I think it was a good win). You tell me: What's the tougher competition? Maybe Mayweather is better, but we can both agree he could do more to show it.

Lastly, explain why you think Mayweather would beat Williams when Mayweather himself has been on record saying he thinks Williams is too big to fight? I don't have the time to listen to it all right now, but it's somewhere in the Ra the Rugged Man interview.