WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?

[shza]

might be a daft thing to say but if the Ward Kessler fight hadnt have happened would ward still be the favourite?

I personally dont think so

You mean like if this fight took place before the Super 6? I think Froch would be the favorite, but Ward would be a very live dog and that a lot of pretty knowledgeable boxing fans would pick Ward to win. Most of us didn't know a ton about him before the tourny, but I remember some posters on here being really high on Ward even then.

no i mean if it were now but ward and kessler had never happened, so we were judging ward mainly on the miranda, green, bika and abraham fights

because miranda has been more soundly beaten as has green, bika and abraham

Ward would still be favored because Froch has lost half of his fights in this tournament. The "win" over Direll was the biggest hometown decision in the Super 6. The guy is tough and has a huge heart but is super-sloppy. The Froch/Kessler fight was the most amatuerish, sloppy fight I've seen in a long time between two supposedly elite fighters.

Froch's win over Pascal is his only really commendable top-level victory. I don't count an exposed Abraham, a shot Taylor, or a shot Johnson for too much.

[erics44]

might be a daft thing to say but if the Ward Kessler fight hadnt have happened would ward still be the favourite?

I personally dont think so

You mean like if this fight took place before the Super 6? I think Froch would be the favorite, but Ward would be a very live dog and that a lot of pretty knowledgeable boxing fans would pick Ward to win. Most of us didn't know a ton about him before the tourny, but I remember some posters on here being really high on Ward even then.

no i mean if it were now but ward and kessler had never happened, so we were judging ward mainly on the miranda, green, bika and abraham fights

because miranda has been more soundly beaten as has green, bika and abraham

Ward would still be favored because Froch has lost half of his fights in this tournament. The "win" over Direll was the biggest hometown decision in the Super 6. The guy is tough and has a huge heart but is super-sloppy. The Froch/Kessler fight was the most amatuerish, sloppy fight I've seen in a long time between two supposedly elite fighters.

Froch's win over Pascal is his only really commendable top-level victory. I don't count an exposed Abraham, a shot Taylor, or a shot Johnson for too much.

the dirrell fight is your opinion, i thought froch more than deserved to win

[erics44]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

[shza]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

[erics44]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

ha, never been more serious in my life

[Rantcatrat]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

ha, never been more serious in my life

erics44's is correct. many picked abraham. actually i believe the odds favored abraham before the fight.

[J_C]

Yes Abraham was a slight favourite even with the British bookies for the Froch fight. 8/11 kind of odds he was. I also admit although pretty much a pick em, at that point in time pre fight I probably was edging towards an Abraham win.

Regarding the threads original question though, this match up does point toward a Ward Pts win. I thought Dirrell outpointed Froch (as did the majority) and Taylor would have outpointed him if it had gone the distance. If you had Froch beating Direll then ok but he still struggled bigtime with him. Dirrell and Taylor are both slick type boxers and Ward can do similar to them but is also better at mixing it. I think Froch is at his best when theres a clear fightplan to carry out (eg.Abraham, Johnson) but its hard to do that clear of a plan for Ward. Im a Froch fan and I hope he wins for sure but common sense points towards Ward winning more rounds than Froch, be it 7 or be it 9 or whatever. I wouldnt be a jot surprised should Froch make it real close and Ward gets a much disputed win however.