WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?

[erics44]

might be a daft thing to say but if the Ward Kessler fight hadnt have happened would ward still be the favourite?

I personally dont think so

You mean like if this fight took place before the Super 6? I think Froch would be the favorite, but Ward would be a very live dog and that a lot of pretty knowledgeable boxing fans would pick Ward to win. Most of us didn't know a ton about him before the tourny, but I remember some posters on here being really high on Ward even then.

no i mean if it were now but ward and kessler had never happened, so we were judging ward mainly on the miranda, green, bika and abraham fights

because miranda has been more soundly beaten as has green, bika and abraham

[ross]

Thats right! Also, Kessler had only been beaten by someone fighting fire with fire, not by someone stopping his momentum by holding, grabbing and headbutting.

[shza]

might be a daft thing to say but if the Ward Kessler fight hadnt have happened would ward still be the favourite?

I personally dont think so

You mean like if this fight took place before the Super 6? I think Froch would be the favorite, but Ward would be a very live dog and that a lot of pretty knowledgeable boxing fans would pick Ward to win. Most of us didn't know a ton about him before the tourny, but I remember some posters on here being really high on Ward even then.

no i mean if it were now but ward and kessler had never happened, so we were judging ward mainly on the miranda, green, bika and abraham fights

because miranda has been more soundly beaten as has green, bika and abraham

Ward would still be favored because Froch has lost half of his fights in this tournament. The "win" over Direll was the biggest hometown decision in the Super 6. The guy is tough and has a huge heart but is super-sloppy. The Froch/Kessler fight was the most amatuerish, sloppy fight I've seen in a long time between two supposedly elite fighters.

Froch's win over Pascal is his only really commendable top-level victory. I don't count an exposed Abraham, a shot Taylor, or a shot Johnson for too much.

[erics44]

might be a daft thing to say but if the Ward Kessler fight hadnt have happened would ward still be the favourite?

I personally dont think so

You mean like if this fight took place before the Super 6? I think Froch would be the favorite, but Ward would be a very live dog and that a lot of pretty knowledgeable boxing fans would pick Ward to win. Most of us didn't know a ton about him before the tourny, but I remember some posters on here being really high on Ward even then.

no i mean if it were now but ward and kessler had never happened, so we were judging ward mainly on the miranda, green, bika and abraham fights

because miranda has been more soundly beaten as has green, bika and abraham

Ward would still be favored because Froch has lost half of his fights in this tournament. The "win" over Direll was the biggest hometown decision in the Super 6. The guy is tough and has a huge heart but is super-sloppy. The Froch/Kessler fight was the most amatuerish, sloppy fight I've seen in a long time between two supposedly elite fighters.

Froch's win over Pascal is his only really commendable top-level victory. I don't count an exposed Abraham, a shot Taylor, or a shot Johnson for too much.

the dirrell fight is your opinion, i thought froch more than deserved to win

[erics44]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

[shza]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

[erics44]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

ha, never been more serious in my life

[Rantcatrat]

you know before the abraham fight there werent many thinking froch would win

You must be joking.

ha, never been more serious in my life

erics44's is correct. many picked abraham. actually i believe the odds favored abraham before the fight.