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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    ^^ Quite true.. Only I still believe many boxers would have a legitimate chance of landing big right off the bat, wheras there isn't one MMA fighter I would give a hope in hell of beating anybody decent in a boxing match. I do enjoy watching some MMA fights and am not meaning to criticize the sport, but the level of "striking" is still fairly shit even among the best guys out there.
    Depends what you call striking if your talking about striking on a whole then the MMA guy is better kicks, knees, elbows, punches. The levelof strinking can be very high considering there are K-1 champions kickboxing and muay thai champions. Wht you mean is the level of boxing isn't very high and that would be due to the fighters having so much to learn why would they want to focus on just boxing when they can be kicked and knee'd so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    ^^ Quite true.. Only I still believe many boxers would have a legitimate chance of landing big right off the bat, wheras there isn't one MMA fighter I would give a hope in hell of beating anybody decent in a boxing match. I do enjoy watching some MMA fights and am not meaning to criticize the sport, but the level of "striking" is still fairly shit even among the best guys out there.
    Depends what you call striking if your talking about striking on a whole then the MMA guy is better kicks, knees, elbows, punches. The levelof strinking can be very high considering there are K-1 champions kickboxing and muay thai champions. Wht you mean is the level of boxing isn't very high and that would be due to the fighters having so much to learn why would they want to focus on just boxing when they can be kicked and knee'd so on.
    In addition to the threat of takedowns, if a fighter commits to a power shot and misses, he gets put on his ass. Plus not all boxing techniques translate well into MMA, specifically defensive ones. Glove size is drastically different (Pat Barry said Kongo KO'd him because he tried to block a boxing glove and the MMA glove easily slipped through his guard) and head kicks and knees make head movement less effective (see the recent Pat Curran vs Marlon Sandro fight in Bellator).

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    Default Re: Thomas Fires Back At New Talk From Mayorga

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    ^^ Quite true.. Only I still believe many boxers would have a legitimate chance of landing big right off the bat, wheras there isn't one MMA fighter I would give a hope in hell of beating anybody decent in a boxing match. I do enjoy watching some MMA fights and am not meaning to criticize the sport, but the level of "striking" is still fairly shit even among the best guys out there.
    Depends what you call striking if your talking about striking on a whole then the MMA guy is better kicks, knees, elbows, punches. The levelof strinking can be very high considering there are K-1 champions kickboxing and muay thai champions. Wht you mean is the level of boxing isn't very high and that would be due to the fighters having so much to learn why would they want to focus on just boxing when they can be kicked and knee'd so on.
    I firmly believe hands are king as long as a two men remain on their feet. Imo if you put certain truly world class boxers in a kickboxing match and allowed muy thai clinches etc they would still have a solid advantage over most any MMA guys out there. Of course some boxing styles are very specific, I'd bet Pacquiao would have a way better chance to crossover in this sense than Mayweather would for example. Could be wrong though, I suppose a lot of it is just that I find boxing more aesthetically pleasing.

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    Default Re: Thomas Fires Back At New Talk From Mayorga

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    ^^ Quite true.. Only I still believe many boxers would have a legitimate chance of landing big right off the bat, wheras there isn't one MMA fighter I would give a hope in hell of beating anybody decent in a boxing match. I do enjoy watching some MMA fights and am not meaning to criticize the sport, but the level of "striking" is still fairly shit even among the best guys out there.
    Depends what you call striking if your talking about striking on a whole then the MMA guy is better kicks, knees, elbows, punches. The levelof strinking can be very high considering there are K-1 champions kickboxing and muay thai champions. Wht you mean is the level of boxing isn't very high and that would be due to the fighters having so much to learn why would they want to focus on just boxing when they can be kicked and knee'd so on.
    I firmly believe hands are king as long as a two men remain on their feet. Imo if you put certain truly world class boxers in a kickboxing match and allowed muy thai clinches etc they would still have a solid advantage over most any MMA guys out there. Of course some boxing styles are very specific, I'd bet Pacquiao would have a way better chance to crossover in this sense than Mayweather would for example. Could be wrong though, I suppose a lot of it is just that I find boxing more aesthetically pleasing.
    Pac is good at moving in and out if he gets pinned against the fence he is out of his element he'd eat some elbows and knees. Also boxers lead leg is right out there for a low kick give him a few of those and he wouldn't be able to move as quick which would work against his style.
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