Do you eat White bread?

[Kev]

what a load of crap . white bread is in no way worse than whole bread . if anything the (more or less) dietary fibers in the whole bread disturb the absorption of nutrients , which might benefit d fatties , but i wouldn't recommend it . eat well and u won't have to worry about actually absorbing the ingredients of your food .

Hey Trainer Monkey, welcome back, missed you on here,

He's actually right though. Any kind of processed grain these days is hard to digest and stripped of nutrients. If you're going to eat bread made from flour it may as well be the simplest white bread you can find, it does the least harm. Sprouted grains are where it's at in fact, they are never turned to flour or processed at all and much higher in nutrients. There's still debate as to whether that stuff is in fact good for you though as opposed to less unhealthy. Bread is in fact shit, sadly.

White bread is clearly worse than wholemeal bread. It's very high GI for one and not filling at all, which is the last thing an overweight person needs. White bread, along with crisps is the one of the worst things you can eat for weight gain.

It's technically a junk food.

Brown bread is healthy in moderation, but too much can lead to bloating, especially people with wheat intolerences. The other main problem with wheat is that it is found in so many meals that we tend to eat more of it than is good for us.

But under no circumstances should a fat person looking to lose weight eat white bread. It's a guaranteed way to fail the diet.

[Kev]

As for sprouted grains, they are advocated by Gillian McKeith. One look at her should be enough to disprove the merits of any such food source.

Best things to eat imo are brown rice, sweet potato and oats for carbs.

[p4pking]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

[Kev]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

[BIG H]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

Overeating is not always down to greed though. And it's only ignorant people that believe it is. Yes, there are many people who are overweight simply because they have no will power or discipline and are just plain greedy. There are other like me, who have a compuslion that is not led by greed. I am extremely disciplined in all aspects of life, but with food I am almost helpless. Will Power is nowhere near as strong as the subconscious and will power will always fail long term - it's unsustainable! Some people have just had a program error somewhere along the line and until the brain is reprogrammed they can never succeed long term.

I didn't eat any food for 14 weeks in 2006, have you any idea how hard that is? But since that and months of councelling, seeiing a shrink, hypnosis and reading every book under the sun I am no further forward in beating this complusion to eat!

[Mars_ax]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

Overeating is not always down to greed though. And it's only ignorant people that believe it is. Yes, there are many people who are overweight simply because they have no will power or discipline and are just plain greedy. There are other like me, who have a compuslion that is not led by greed. I am extremely disciplined in all aspects of life, but with food I am almost helpless. Will Power is nowhere near as strong as the subconscious and will power will always fail long term - it's unsustainable! Some people have just had a program error somewhere along the line and until the brain is reprogrammed they can never succeed long term.

I didn't eat any food for 14 weeks in 2006, have you any idea how hard that is? But since that and months of councelling, seeiing a shrink, hypnosis and reading every book under the sun I am no further forward in beating this complusion to eat!

It all boils down to will power, same thing with quiting smoking, drinking, et al. Plan your meals for each day, toss in a little exercize, and stick to your program.

[BIG H]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

Overeating is not always down to greed though. And it's only ignorant people that believe it is. Yes, there are many people who are overweight simply because they have no will power or discipline and are just plain greedy. There are other like me, who have a compuslion that is not led by greed. I am extremely disciplined in all aspects of life, but with food I am almost helpless. Will Power is nowhere near as strong as the subconscious and will power will always fail long term - it's unsustainable! Some people have just had a program error somewhere along the line and until the brain is reprogrammed they can never succeed long term.

I didn't eat any food for 14 weeks in 2006, have you any idea how hard that is? But since that and months of councelling, seeiing a shrink, hypnosis and reading every book under the sun I am no further forward in beating this complusion to eat!

It all boils down to will power, same thing with quiting smoking, drinking, et al. Plan your meals for each day, toss in a little exercize, and stick to your program.

....spoken by somebody that has no understanding of what it is like to suffer with this.
If you read any book on the subject on consult anybody with an ounce of knowledge they will tell you that will power has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it and that will power cannot prevail long term.

I'm not talking about everybody, some people just need to get of their ass stop stuffing their faces and do some exercise, and are completely able to do that if they could be bothered. Others cannot do this. There are actualy things called eating disorders

Can you 'Will power' away a physical issue? If you broke your leg could will power make it better? So why would you think it's any different with a mental injury/disorder or whatever you want to call it.

Trust me, a more disciplined, organized and rational person than me you will not find. I can say to "No" to smoking, drinking gambling, fucking other woman and I can manage a UK business turning over 50 million pounds, but I cannot regulte what eat.

[Kev]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

Overeating is not always down to greed though. And it's only ignorant people that believe it is. Yes, there are many people who are overweight simply because they have no will power or discipline and are just plain greedy. There are other like me, who have a compuslion that is not led by greed. I am extremely disciplined in all aspects of life, but with food I am almost helpless. Will Power is nowhere near as strong as the subconscious and will power will always fail long term - it's unsustainable! Some people have just had a program error somewhere along the line and until the brain is reprogrammed they can never succeed long term.

I didn't eat any food for 14 weeks in 2006, have you any idea how hard that is? But since that and months of councelling, seeiing a shrink, hypnosis and reading every book under the sun I am no further forward in beating this complusion to eat!

I was only being playful mate, trying to inject some good natured humour into it.

Looks like CFH has your back and has labelled you a mental, so hopefully everyone will get off your back now

[CFH]

No idea who that is but it's basically unquestionably better for you to limit processed grains whenever possible. I'm also a believer in different metabolic types, some people will put on weight eating carbs no matter where they come from, other's do very well eating almost nothing but. Sweet potatoes and other root vegetables are indeed the best source imo, moreso than any grain.

Wheat is a problem in the Western world because we eat so much of it. It's in everything, bread, cereals, pasta etc, and too much can lead to intolerence problems, but wheat itself is very good for you.

I'm a believer in overeaters and greedy people. Metabolic type is simply an excuse. In test after test that has been done, it's shown that weight gain is a rwsult of somebody consuming more calories than they burn.

Also, the heavier someone is the faster their metabolism has to work so they have to eat more (calories not necesarrily food quantity if their food choices are shit) to keep the weight up.

Ironically Big H, if he is the heaviest person on this thread will almost certainly have the fastest metabolism, and I, as the lightest, and also with an underactive thyroid gland, will have the slowest.

Metabloic rates are just a justification for fatties as to why they are fat.

BBC - Health: Myths about metabolism

Overeating is not always down to greed though. And it's only ignorant people that believe it is. Yes, there are many people who are overweight simply because they have no will power or discipline and are just plain greedy. There are other like me, who have a compuslion that is not led by greed. I am extremely disciplined in all aspects of life, but with food I am almost helpless. Will Power is nowhere near as strong as the subconscious and will power will always fail long term - it's unsustainable! Some people have just had a program error somewhere along the line and until the brain is reprogrammed they can never succeed long term.

I didn't eat any food for 14 weeks in 2006, have you any idea how hard that is? But since that and months of councelling, seeiing a shrink, hypnosis and reading every book under the sun I am no further forward in beating this complusion to eat!

I was only being playful mate, trying to inject some good natured humour into it.

Looks like CFH has your back and has labelled you a mental, so hopefully everyone will get off your back now

I wouldn't label very many people as 'mental' and certainly not someone with an eating disorder.

People have different sorts of health issues, including mental health ones, that need to be treated. Unfortunately, the bombastic ignorance surrounding mental health means that people aren't able to get the help they need to live a normal life and that is wrong. Those people who do come forward and admit to their problems are often mocked for it by dime-store psychologists which absolutely no understanding of anything even remotely medical, which I find absurd, and that just makes it more difficult for them to get better or develop strategies for coping.