Would fighters like Bruno,Shavers,Norton,Ruddock be Champ today?

[erics44]

I think Vitali Klitschko is very overrated.

I think we just don't know how good he is, because his resume (not his fault) absolutely stinks!! When I watch him I think he looks awful. He looks like Ivan Drago chasing Apollo Creed around in the first round of that fight. He could be one of the greatest ever, but he could just be very average and have only done what many others could have done if they had been around in this era.

If you think about it, would any of these (middel of the road) guys have lost to anybody (except Lewis) that Vitali has fought??

Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Ray Mercer
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Oliver McCall

i agree but it isnt neccesarily about who vitali has fought so much as how he has won

in all the fights i have seen hin in and there has been a fair few i dont remember him losing many rounds

he lost a couple of tight ones to lews and was losing the 1st round to solis and that is it

appart from against bird obviously but he had a good excuse

he has won every other fight and every round in all of those fights

[ICB]

I think Vitali Klitschko is very overrated.

I think we just don't know how good he is, because his resume (not his fault) absolutely stinks!! When I watch him I think he looks awful. He looks like Ivan Drago chasing Apollo Creed around in the first round of that fight. He could be one of the greatest ever, but he could just be very average and have only done what many others could have done if they had been around in this era.

If you think about it, would any of these (middel of the road) guys have lost to anybody (except Lewis) that Vitali has fought??

Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Ray Mercer
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Oliver McCall

i agree but it isnt neccesarily about who vitali has fought so much as how he has won

in all the fights i have seen hin in and there has been a fair few i dont remember him losing many rounds

he lost a couple of tight ones to lews and was losing the 1st round to solis and that is it

appart from against bird obviously but he had a good excuse

he has won every other fight and every round in all of those fights

He lost to Chris Byrd don't forget.

[BIG H]

I think Vitali Klitschko is very overrated.

I think we just don't know how good he is, because his resume (not his fault) absolutely stinks!! When I watch him I think he looks awful. He looks like Ivan Drago chasing Apollo Creed around in the first round of that fight. He could be one of the greatest ever, but he could just be very average and have only done what many others could have done if they had been around in this era.

If you think about it, would any of these (middel of the road) guys have lost to anybody (except Lewis) that Vitali has fought??

Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Ray Mercer
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Oliver McCall

i agree but it isnt neccesarily about who vitali has fought so much as how he has won

in all the fights i have seen hin in and there has been a fair few i dont remember him losing many rounds

he lost a couple of tight ones to lews and was losing the 1st round to solis and that is it

appart from against bird obviously but he had a good excuse

he has won every other fight and every round in all of those fights

He lost to Chris Byrd don't forget.

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[ICB]

I think Vitali Klitschko is very overrated.

I think we just don't know how good he is, because his resume (not his fault) absolutely stinks!! When I watch him I think he looks awful. He looks like Ivan Drago chasing Apollo Creed around in the first round of that fight. He could be one of the greatest ever, but he could just be very average and have only done what many others could have done if they had been around in this era.

If you think about it, would any of these (middel of the road) guys have lost to anybody (except Lewis) that Vitali has fought??

Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Ray Mercer
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Oliver McCall

i agree but it isnt neccesarily about who vitali has fought so much as how he has won

in all the fights i have seen hin in and there has been a fair few i dont remember him losing many rounds

he lost a couple of tight ones to lews and was losing the 1st round to solis and that is it

appart from against bird obviously but he had a good excuse

he has won every other fight and every round in all of those fights

He lost to Chris Byrd don't forget.

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Yea i wern't really paying attention my bad, but he spelt it wrong aswell so it threw me off. But Chris Byrd was coming on and did win quite a few rounds, the reason Vitali Klitschko's shoulder messed up was because he was missing alot of punches, so thats a pretty legit win for Chris Byrd IMO.

[erics44]

That could have caused the injury

Considering how dominant in all of his other fights vitali has been I doubt it, I would say he was injured

[fairyrak]

no, they wouldn't, wait until the klitschkos are 46 years old for a more fair chance, because anyone can beat anyone given an appropriate difference of age. From babies, prime to old men. Some boxers like to fight shot boxers dissimulatedly.