Doctor's Report on Hopkins

[Kev]

Looks like he wasn't faking

Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.

Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.

Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.

Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding

You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con. The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.

Such a stupid post. So you think this first ballot hall of famer, arguably the greatest middleweight of all time, quit because he had a hunch Dawson was going to do be able to put it on him later in the fight and he wouldn't be able to hang with him?

If this was the case, then why, pray tell did he stay in there with Jean Pascal, the conquerer of Dawson, after being floored twice and and being way down on the scorecards? Why didn't he look for a way to get a DQ in that fight, rather than turning it all around with a beautiful boxing lesson?

Did he sense that Pascal, despite flooring him twice was going to wilt in the later rounds, whereas as his spider senses alerted him to the fact that Dawson was going to come on strong?

[ICB]

Looks like he wasn't faking

Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.

Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.

Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.

Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding

You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con. The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.

Such a stupid post. So you think this first ballot hall of famer, arguably the greatest middleweight of all time, quit because he had a hunch Dawson was going to do be able to put it on him later in the fight and he wouldn't be able to hang with him?

If this was the case, then why, pray tell did he stay in there with Jean Pascal, the conquerer of Dawson, after being floored twice and and being way down on the scorecards? Why didn't he look for a way to get a DQ in that fight, rather than turning it all around with a beautiful boxing lesson?

Did he sense that Pascal, despite flooring him twice was going to wilt in the later rounds, whereas as his spider senses alerted him to the fact that Dawson was going to come on strong?

Both fighters landed 5 punches in the 1st round, and the 2nd round looked like another stalemate aswell. I don't see where all this Chad Dawson was winning idea has come from, i didn't see any fighter having an advantage.

It probably would of ended up alot like Taylor/Hopkins, a very close controversial decision IMO.

[Mars_ax]

Both fighters landed 5 punches in the 1st round, and the 2nd round looked like another stalemate aswell. I don't see where all this Chad Dawson was winning idea has come from, i didn't see any fighter having an advantage.

It probably would of ended up alot like Taylor/Hopkins, a very close controversial decision IMO.

Ledderman had Dawson winning the 1st round and so did I, for being busier and the aggressor, the 2nd round is anybody's guess because of course it ended early.

No telling how the fight would have ended were it not for the stoppage. I liked what I was seeing from Dawson, but you're probably correct, it likely would have ended in a close controversial decision.

[Mars_ax]

You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con. The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.

Such a stupid post.

Thank you Bilbo, I didn't bother reading the rest of it.

[Spicoli]

I must be losing my mind. In life a mans reputation follows him and is duely noted. In the ring it is assumed by fans and people involved, a fighters traits etc etc.

But in the ring you are penalized, deducted points, reprimanded and in some cases disqualified for shady behavior or what is considered illegal....not guile...not cagey and not gritty happenings frankly you DO see in the vast majority of fights...headbutts...holding...whateva. We are painting with a huge brush and I think the generality with which some paint Hopkins as the reemergence of Galento-Agipito Sanchez-Golota combined is borderline loony tunes. Get a grip.

It IS NOT a officials place to hold those incidents as a red card to issue at the 1st sign of a fight going sideways. You take control and start knocking heads and acting like the MFIC wearing the blue, not cop out on the back of a shit move the other guy responds with. You cannot make it up as you go and pick and chose calling a fair fight and instead play double jeopardy. Its not in the hands of the other fighter to himself disregard being 'clean' and suddenly turn Sumo wrangler in frustration, then run around thumping his chest like he's actually proud to have won like that. The stuff WE tolerate.