Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

[Mars_ax]

Simple here's how it goes down, easy going first round for PAC, JMM pressing hard edges it.
10-9 JMM

2nd round JMM tries to build on his success with the straight right and gets caught with a left uppercut.
10-8 PAC

3rd round JMM works hard to try get back some points PAC steps out peppering JMM and opens a cut over JMM's eye.
10-9 PAC

4th round JMM starts to look his age, PAC goes on to unrelenting attack scores 3 knockdowns fight is waived off and Dinamita is stopped for the first time.

That's my guess.

And that is sadly how it very well may go cause jmms ancient for his size, even at heavy he'd be considered old. Its still a pac jmm fight tho so who the hell knows...I wish these guys had fought each other ten times, but then again they probably would have put each other in comas by now....I think pac jmm 1 is right up there for me in terms of all time great fights just cause I got to see it live and to see jmm come back the way he did was amazing. Hope jmms got one last good one in him left and if he won he should ride off into the sunset.

I'm not sure if I agree, but they say the best ones always have one great fight left in them. Marquez looked horrible against Mayweather, (but then who doesn't) let's hope he can turn back time against Manny, and we get to see another super fight.

[Rantcatrat]

Simple here's how it goes down, easy going first round for PAC, JMM pressing hard edges it.
10-9 JMM

2nd round JMM tries to build on his success with the straight right and gets caught with a left uppercut.
10-8 PAC

3rd round JMM works hard to try get back some points PAC steps out peppering JMM and opens a cut over JMM's eye.
10-9 PAC

4th round JMM starts to look his age, PAC goes on to unrelenting attack scores 3 knockdowns fight is waived off and Dinamita is stopped for the first time.

That's my guess.

And that is sadly how it very well may go cause jmms ancient for his size, even at heavy he'd be considered old. Its still a pac jmm fight tho so who the hell knows...I wish these guys had fought each other ten times, but then again they probably would have put each other in comas by now....I think pac jmm 1 is right up there for me in terms of all time great fights just cause I got to see it live and to see jmm come back the way he did was amazing. Hope jmms got one last good one in him left and if he won he should ride off into the sunset.

I'm not sure if I agree, but they say the best ones always have one great fight left in them. Marquez looked horrible against Mayweather, (but then who doesn't) let's hope he can turn back time against Manny, and we get to see another super fight.

What worried more than how JMM looked in the PBF fight was how he looked in the Kastidis and Diaz I fights. Kastidis is a banger but he's no Pacquiao and he put JMM down once or twice in that fight. The scores were pretty close when JMM ko'd Kastidis. Diaz is a fighter that JMM should have dominated and he didn't. Losing to Mayweather is one thing, but fighting close fights with Diaz and Kastidis is another. Still, I see JMM as possibly Manny's kriptonite.

[Mars_ax]

Simple here's how it goes down, easy going first round for PAC, JMM pressing hard edges it.
10-9 JMM

2nd round JMM tries to build on his success with the straight right and gets caught with a left uppercut.
10-8 PAC

3rd round JMM works hard to try get back some points PAC steps out peppering JMM and opens a cut over JMM's eye.
10-9 PAC

4th round JMM starts to look his age, PAC goes on to unrelenting attack scores 3 knockdowns fight is waived off and Dinamita is stopped for the first time.

That's my guess.

And that is sadly how it very well may go cause jmms ancient for his size, even at heavy he'd be considered old. Its still a pac jmm fight tho so who the hell knows...I wish these guys had fought each other ten times, but then again they probably would have put each other in comas by now....I think pac jmm 1 is right up there for me in terms of all time great fights just cause I got to see it live and to see jmm come back the way he did was amazing. Hope jmms got one last good one in him left and if he won he should ride off into the sunset.

I'm not sure if I agree, but they say the best ones always have one great fight left in them. Marquez looked horrible against Mayweather, (but then who doesn't) let's hope he can turn back time against Manny, and we get to see another super fight.

What worried more than how JMM looked in the PBF fight was how he looked in the Kastidis and Diaz I fights. Kastidis is a banger but he's no Pacquiao and he put JMM down once or twice in that fight. The scores were pretty close when JMM ko'd Kastidis. Diaz is a fighter that JMM should have dominated and he didn't. Losing to Mayweather is one thing, but fighting close fights with Diaz and Kastidis is another. Still, I see JMM as possibly Manny's kriptonite.

I don't, not now anyway, my gut feeling is, Marquez will give it his all and/or try to make a fight out of it, but Pacquiao lights him up, busts him up and stops him. This ain't the same Pacquiao, Marquez fought in 2008, he's an altogether different cat.

[Rantcatrat]

Simple here's how it goes down, easy going first round for PAC, JMM pressing hard edges it.
10-9 JMM

2nd round JMM tries to build on his success with the straight right and gets caught with a left uppercut.
10-8 PAC

3rd round JMM works hard to try get back some points PAC steps out peppering JMM and opens a cut over JMM's eye.
10-9 PAC

4th round JMM starts to look his age, PAC goes on to unrelenting attack scores 3 knockdowns fight is waived off and Dinamita is stopped for the first time.

That's my guess.

And that is sadly how it very well may go cause jmms ancient for his size, even at heavy he'd be considered old. Its still a pac jmm fight tho so who the hell knows...I wish these guys had fought each other ten times, but then again they probably would have put each other in comas by now....I think pac jmm 1 is right up there for me in terms of all time great fights just cause I got to see it live and to see jmm come back the way he did was amazing. Hope jmms got one last good one in him left and if he won he should ride off into the sunset.

I'm not sure if I agree, but they say the best ones always have one great fight left in them. Marquez looked horrible against Mayweather, (but then who doesn't) let's hope he can turn back time against Manny, and we get to see another super fight.

What worried more than how JMM looked in the PBF fight was how he looked in the Kastidis and Diaz I fights. Kastidis is a banger but he's no Pacquiao and he put JMM down once or twice in that fight. The scores were pretty close when JMM ko'd Kastidis. Diaz is a fighter that JMM should have dominated and he didn't. Losing to Mayweather is one thing, but fighting close fights with Diaz and Kastidis is another. Still, I see JMM as possibly Manny's kriptonite.

I don't, not now anyway, my gut feeling is, Marquez will give it his all and/or try to make a fight out of it, but Pacquiao lights him up, busts him up and stops him. This ain't the same Pacquiao, Marquez fought in 2008, he's an altogether different cat.

And, maybe more importantly, Marquez ain't the same Marquez. At the same time, Marquez knows Pacquiao's timing so well that I believe he'll win a few rounds and make it a good fight before it ends.

[Rantcatrat]

Still, me personally, I know not everyone else here, but because of my high regard for JMM's previous performances against Pacquiao, I would give Pacquiao a lot of credit if he brutally stops Marquez before the 5th round like people are predicting.

[Mars_ax]

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I don't, not now anyway, my gut feeling is, Marquez will give it his all and/or try to make a fight out of it, but Pacquiao lights him up, busts him up and stops him. This ain't the same Pacquiao, Marquez fought in 2008, he's an altogether different cat.

And, maybe more importantly, Marquez ain't the same Marquez. At the same time, Marquez knows Pacquiao's timing so well that I believe he'll win a few rounds and make it a good fight before it ends.

Makes sense to me bro, I may have to buy this Card, Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Joel Casamayor, for Bradley's WBO junior welterweight title is part of the undercard. Sadly however, Casamayor might die of old age during the fight.

[:::PSL:::]

'Anyone know the current Vegas odds for this fight?

[Mars_ax]

'Anyone know the current Vegas odds for this fight?

I know Pacquiao is a big time favorite, i'm not sure of the exact current odds now, but it opened at something like 7 or 8-1.

[:::PSL:::]

'Anyone know the current Vegas odds for this fight?

I know Pacquiao is a big time favorite, i'm not sure of the exact current odds now, but it opened at something like 7 or 8-1.

My gut says 7-1 Pac too.