Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

[BIG H]

Interested to see your views.

[Otley]

Interested to see your views.

Maybe cause you are stupid and you have asked a very stupid question

job biscuit (stupid boy)!!!

eh eh!!!

[LukeH]

I think Leonard has a greater resume, which i percieve greatness to be about.

For me they would be alot closer if you were talking about which one was the better fighter out of the two rather than their respective 'greatness' if that makes any sense.

[BIG H]

I think Leonard has a greater resume, which i percieve greatness to be about.

For me they would be alot closer if you were talking about which one was the better fighter out of the two rather than their respective 'greatness' if that makes any sense.

Complete sense and exactly my thoughts too.

[Dropanuke]

Compare the number of belts they both had and the amount of weight divisions they've had success in

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Compare the number of belts they both had and the amount of weight divisions they've had success in

I think belts and weightclasses are superficial in relation to the level of talent that a fighter faces.

Fair play to both of em though, they both made substantial climbs in weight.

[ICB]

Interested to see your views.

SRL fought better opposition, but RJJ fought alot longer at the top. I think had RJJ retired after the John Ruiz fight he could of been higher IMO, i think the losses have hurt his legacy.

[ElTerribleMorales]

in terms of natural talent and athletic ability I say they're even, but Leonard has the better resume and not just on paper

he went 36 (25 KOs) with only 3 losses 2 coming at the end of his career, with wins over the likes of Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler, that alone is better than anyone that Jones beat, and Jones didn't just beat up on bums, both guys are great in their own right but IMO Leonard takes the cake

[ICB]

in terms of natural talent and athletic ability I say they're even, but Leonard has the better resume and not just on paper

he went 36 (25 KOs) with only 3 losses 2 coming at the end of his career, with wins over the likes of Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler, that alone is better than anyone that Jones beat, and Jones didn't just beat up on bums, both guys are great in their own right but IMO Leonard takes the cake

It comes down to quality or quantity, but im just going to stir the pot here a little. But does it matter that SRL got gift decisions vs Hearns, Hagler ?

[Spicoli]

I'd go with Leonard. I think he actually liked to fight. He traded with greats and the company he kept in peak era says alot.

[erics44]

Jones was unbeatable leonard wasnt


Leonard boxed in an era where there were no hws with any marketting pull so he and his weight classes got more exposure and therefore will always leave a bigger legacy and will more often get the vote

[Mr140]

Jones was not unbeatable he got beat just like Leonard did but the comp they beat i don't know how Jones faced better fighters. As for there skills they were pretty equal Jones faster Leonard better chin.

[ICB]

Jones was not unbeatable he got beat just like Leonard did but the comp they beat i don't know how Jones faced better fighters. As for there skills they were pretty equal Jones faster Leonard better chin.

He got beat past his prime, were talking about in his prime here. I mean honestly have you known a fighter dominate like RJJ for that length of time ?

The only fights he was even in a little trouble was Harding, Griffin 1, and that was hardly any trouble its just they were more competitive, than pretty much any RJJ fight in his prime.

[Mr140]

Only lose Lenoard had thats was even close to prime was Duran and i don't think he was even prime yet. Jones lost to Griffen that was a close fight dq or not. Both came back to erase the lose but still both lost.

[Mr140]

Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.