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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    Jones was not unbeatable he got beat just like Leonard did but the comp they beat i don't know how Jones faced better fighters. As for there skills they were pretty equal Jones faster Leonard better chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Jones was not unbeatable he got beat just like Leonard did but the comp they beat i don't know how Jones faced better fighters. As for there skills they were pretty equal Jones faster Leonard better chin.
    He got beat past his prime, were talking about in his prime here. I mean honestly have you known a fighter dominate like RJJ for that length of time ?

    The only fights he was even in a little trouble was Harding, Griffin 1, and that was hardly any trouble its just they were more competitive, than pretty much any RJJ fight in his prime.

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    Only lose Lenoard had thats was even close to prime was Duran and i don't think he was even prime yet. Jones lost to Griffen that was a close fight dq or not. Both came back to erase the lose but still both lost.

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    Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.

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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    Easily SRL, Jones doesn't even make my top 100 all-time.

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    Roy Jones acheived more, SRL had a short prime, the comeback from Hagler was all gimmick. SRL greatest victory was against Hearns and he showed heart. RJJ did not really have a defining fight, just collected the titles and made everything look easy.
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    This is a tough one for me. Not taking into account the people they fought, and just looking at their athletic ability, then I would go for Roy. Boxing skills and slickness, tough one, but again Roy in his prime was untouchable, best display of this was against Toney. The amount of opponents he goaded by placing his hands behind his back and countering was more than I've ever seen.

    May get stick for this but im going to pick Roy as the greater 'fighter' of the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Easily SRL, Jones doesn't even make my top 100 all-time.
    That really surprises me mate. Surely you must be basing some of that on the Taver fights and since? Looking at him up to and including Ruiz, it would be very hard not to have him at least top 20 IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
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    Easily SRL, Jones doesn't even make my top 100 all-time.
    That really surprises me mate. Surely you must be basing some of that on the Taver fights and since? Looking at him up to and including Ruiz, it would be very hard not to have him at least top 20 IMO.
    The "Great" Jones Jr had his moments early his career, but I never saw any real "defining" fights, or moving up in weight and outpointing Journeyman HW Chumpion John Ruiz as any great accomplishment. Once Jones' unorthodox style was figured out and the competition got stiffer, he started getting his ass handed to him, first by Tarver, then by Glenn Johnson. I look at a fighters entire career and Roy Jones Jr. turned out to be an overhyped PPV premadona, who got exposed.

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    Leonard and it's not even close for me. Jones was one of the most talented fighters ever, perhaps the most talented fighter even, but SRL's resume is second to none and that is what greatness is all about.

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    Leonard and it's not even close for me. Jones was one of the most talented fighters ever, perhaps the most talented fighter even, but SRL's resume is second to none and that is what greatness is all about.
    I agree that nobody has a more impressive record of victims in history than SRL has. It would look a lot different if the Hearns fight was 12 rounds (I know it's a moot point) and the Hagler decision had gone the other way. He deffo lost the 2nd Hearns fight.
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    Its about who you fight not how many titles you win RJJ was a great fighter but he did not come any where near fighting the fighters Sugar Ray did , hands down SRR is the better man

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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    Leonard
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    Jones Jr is doing irreparable damage to his legacy continuing to fight and losing to guys not good enough to carry his gym bag.

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    Trainer Monkey is the greatest.


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