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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    The fight was simply terribly close with several terribly close rounds.

    I had four rounds marked "very close."

    I disagreed with Lederman each time.
    How did you mark round 2 Marble? I'm really confused by 2 judges giving that round to Pac. I didn't have it as 1 of my swing (close) rounds.
    I had it for JMM and also not marked as a swing round. I think Lederman also had it for JMM.
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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    The fight was simply terribly close with several terribly close rounds.

    I had four rounds marked "very close."

    I disagreed with Lederman each time.
    How did you mark round 2 Marble? I'm really confused by 2 judges giving that round to Pac. I didn't have it as 1 of my swing (close) rounds.
    I had it for JMM and also not marked as a swing round. I think Lederman also had it for JMM.
    lederman,Amir Kahn, everyone for espn, everyone here, everyone on other websites. Basically 98% of the people scoring felt Marquez won round 2 but 2 judges gave that round to Pac. I find that highly questionable.

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
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    The fight was simply terribly close with several terribly close rounds.

    I had four rounds marked "very close."

    I disagreed with Lederman each time.
    How did you mark round 2 Marble? I'm really confused by 2 judges giving that round to Pac. I didn't have it as 1 of my swing (close) rounds.
    I had it for JMM and also not marked as a swing round. I think Lederman also had it for JMM.
    lederman,Amir Kahn, everyone for espn, everyone here, everyone on other websites. Basically 98% of the people scoring felt Marquez won round 2 but 2 judges gave that round to Pac. I find that highly questionable.
    Agreed you cant give that round to Pacman there is just no way.
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    Lederman should be hooked up to a lie detector over that card!

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Haha, you guys are so pathetic. You have no clue Pac made it look this way so Floyd would be convinced that he can beat Manny hoping that floyd will finally step up and take the fwockin fight. Was it a close fight? Of course it was. Did jmm clearly win every round? Hell no! Was Manny the aggressor? Yes! On eve rounds woukld you give the round to the aggressor? Go ask Ledderman and the judges. Bottom line, your whining won't change the outcome of the fight, so suck it up!

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Giving Manny 8, 9 and 10 is complete BS. The rest of the Lederman card is ok I can see how he gets every other round like he did. But 8, 9 and 10 all Pac? Come on. I favour Marquez in all 3 and I dont even think 8 and 10 are close.
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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by narsman View Post
    Haha, you guys are so pathetic. You have no clue Pac made it look this way so Floyd would be convinced that he can beat Manny hoping that floyd will finally step up and take the fwockin fight. Was it a close fight? Of course it was. Did jmm clearly win every round? Hell no! Was Manny the aggressor? Yes! On eve rounds woukld you give the round to the aggressor? Go ask Ledderman and the judges. Bottom line, your whining won't change the outcome of the fight, so suck it up!
    Wow. Just wow. The epitome of pactardation. "Manny consciously made a decision to look weak weak so he could get Floyd into the ring... and Manny looked so strong and aggressive that he won the fight."
    If your goal is to muddy the waters: good job! You've at least succeeded at that. Pacquiao's reputation is build on the fanboy's circular logic. Go to bed kid.

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBranMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by narsman View Post
    Haha, you guys are so pathetic. You have no clue Pac made it look this way so Floyd would be convinced that he can beat Manny hoping that floyd will finally step up and take the fwockin fight. Was it a close fight? Of course it was. Did jmm clearly win every round? Hell no! Was Manny the aggressor? Yes! On eve rounds woukld you give the round to the aggressor? Go ask Ledderman and the judges. Bottom line, your whining won't change the outcome of the fight, so suck it up!
    Wow. Just wow. The epitome of pactardation. "Manny consciously made a decision to look weak weak so he could get Floyd into the ring... and Manny looked so strong and aggressive that he won the fight."
    If your goal is to muddy the waters: good job! You've at least succeeded at that. Pacquiao's reputation is build on the fanboy's circular logic. Go to bed kid.
    exactly! that's it! we need to get rid of Manny Pacquiao for the good of the people, cause he's obviously causing mental retardation to his general fanbase!!! hahahahaha

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    9 rounds to 3 Marquez. it was one of his easiest fights. Michael Katsidis gave him a harder fight. Paquiao was shocked when they announced his name. His wife had already took off her panties and was headed to Marquez locker room thinking he had won. Even the crowd booed his ass. And that included his fellow people. All them strays they picked up and were gonna fry in celebration. They let them all go. They knew he lost.

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    If all three judges scored the 2nd for Marquez the cards would be

    115-113 Marquez
    115-113 Pacquiao
    115-113 Pacquiao

    The only difference would be a SD instead of a MD.
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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    If all three judges scored the 2nd for Marquez the cards would be

    115-113 Marquez
    115-113 Pacquiao
    115-113 Pacquiao

    The only difference would be a SD instead of a MD.
    Yeah I think the point is more: if they can give that round to Manny then the others are much easier give.
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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    If all three judges scored the 2nd for Marquez the cards would be

    115-113 Marquez
    115-113 Pacquiao
    115-113 Pacquiao

    The only difference would be a SD instead of a MD.
    Yeah I think the point is more: if they can give that round to Manny then the others are much easier give.
    Yeah that is absolutely true, given the early precedent.
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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Ok i guess i have to put my input being that i am DIE HARD PAC FAN.

    AS A PACFAN: I smile at the W and I am happy we got it, just like moth other die hard fans would. If my favorite sports team gets a bad call to go there way and they end up winning the game because of it.. I will take that win and move onto next week.

    AS A BOXING FAN: I will not argue any point given on why JMM should've won. I can not argue the reasoning behind it and it would be silly of me to deny those points...Will i personally admit JMM won?? Nope, i don't have to because the judges thought otherwise.

    AS A BOXING COACH: I can make a case for both sides on why they won the fight, i thought it was extremely close just like the last 2 fights and i would've excepted the outcome for JMM just as i did for my boy PAC.


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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    I had it 115-113 Pacquaio. I thought Marquez won 8 rounds legit but Manny is the titleholder and the MAN and JMM only did enough in five of the rounds to overcome the advantage Manny had before each round started. You have to take the belt from the champion. Its a cruel cruel world.

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    Default Re: I saw it like Lederman did.

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I had it 115-113 Pacquaio. I thought Marquez won 8 rounds legit but Manny is the titleholder and the MAN and JMM only did enough in five of the rounds to overcome the advantage Manny had before each round started. You have to take the belt from the champion. Its a cruel cruel world.
    wtf bro, really, you just contradict yourself as do all Pacquiao fanboys, you JUST SAID THAT YOU THOUGH MARQUEZ WON 8 ROUNDS LEGIT, so if he won 8 rounds LEGIT AS YOU SAID to Manny's 4 rounds, HOW THE HELL IS THAT NOT DOING ENOUGH TO TAKE THE BELT FROM THE CHAMPION? fuck me, is the only way to win a championship against Manny "special rules" Pacquiao is to either KO him knock him down in every fucking round to win a decision...

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