Why so many Pac haters? It seems that every thread there's always a hater?

[ElTerribleMorales]

because the definition of a Pachater is the following: Anyone who doesn't get on his knees to suck off Manny Pacquiao, anyone who doesn't think that he's as great as most of his peons do, anyone who thinks that Manny Pacquiao lost fights against Marquez

it's always been this way, and yea PSL the judges did see something that none of us did, they saw a bunch of Ben Franklins eagerly waiting for them prior to the start of the fight

[Mars_ax]

because the definition of a Pachater is the following: Anyone who doesn't get on his knees to suck off Manny Pacquiao, anyone who doesn't think that he's as great as most of his peons do, anyone who thinks that Manny Pacquiao lost fights against Marquez.

it's always been this way, and yea PSL the judges did see something that none of us did, they saw a bunch of Ben Franklins eagerly waiting for them prior to the start of the fight

Or in your case, it's because Pacquiao kicked the shit out of Morales.

[ElTerribleMorales]

because the definition of a Pachater is the following: Anyone who doesn't get on his knees to suck off Manny Pacquiao, anyone who doesn't think that he's as great as most of his peons do, anyone who thinks that Manny Pacquiao lost fights against Marquez.

it's always been this way, and yea PSL the judges did see something that none of us did, they saw a bunch of Ben Franklins eagerly waiting for them prior to the start of the fight

Or in your case, it's because Pacquiao kicked the shit out of Morales.

not even, didn't have a problem with Manny until his hoard of fans started trying to make him out to be a gift from God, more or less after the DLH fight, Raheem had already picked up the win against Morales and that was already a showing that the end was coming near for Erik, don't get confused, yea Morales put on two great performances in his last two fights, but one was against an unknown young kid, and the other against Maidana who was perfectly made for him (slow, wide shots, doesn't use straight punches), unlike the Pactards, I don't dwell on shit that cleanly happens in the ring, Manny beat Cotto, he did so fairly, like I said in another post yea Cotto didn't have a corner, but who's fault is that? it was Miguel's not Pacquiao's, but when it comes to fights like his wins over the likes of DLH, Mosley, Diaz, and especially Marquez, there's plenty of bullshit surrounding all of them

Oscar was weight drained and shot to shit, so I fail to see why that was such a big win, especially when Roach himself openly admits that's why they took the fight

Mosley shot as well and had just gotten his ass handed to him by Mayweather

Diaz was just given a gift decision against Erik Morales (IMO worst decision of the year), and was still the weakest "champ" at 135

and well as previously stated Marquez has gone 3-0 against Manny or at the very worst 2-0-1

[Mars_ax]

because the definition of a Pachater is the following: Anyone who doesn't get on his knees to suck off Manny Pacquiao, anyone who doesn't think that he's as great as most of his peons do, anyone who thinks that Manny Pacquiao lost fights against Marquez.

it's always been this way, and yea PSL the judges did see something that none of us did, they saw a bunch of Ben Franklins eagerly waiting for them prior to the start of the fight

Or in your case, it's because Pacquiao kicked the shit out of Morales.

not even, didn't have a problem with Manny until his hoard of fans started trying to make him out to be a gift from God, more or less after the DLH fight, Raheem had already picked up the win against Morales and that was already a showing that the end was coming near for Erik, don't get confused, yea Morales put on two great performances in his last two fights, but one was against an unknown young kid, and the other against Maidana who was perfectly made for him (slow, wide shots, doesn't use straight punches), unlike the Pactards, I don't dwell on shit that cleanly happens in the ring, Manny beat Cotto, he did so fairly, like I said in another post yea Cotto didn't have a corner, but who's fault is that? it was Miguel's not Pacquiao's, but when it comes to fights like his wins over the likes of DLH, Mosley, Diaz, and especially Marquez, there's plenty of bullshit surrounding all of them

Oscar was weight drained and shot to shit, so I fail to see why that was such a big win, especially when Roach himself openly admits that's why they took the fight

Mosley shot as well and had just gotten his ass handed to him by Mayweather

Diaz was just given a gift decision against Erik Morales (IMO worst decision of the year), and was still the weakest "champ" at 135

and well as previously stated Marquez has gone 3-0 against Manny or at the very worst 2-0-1

So pretty much all of Pacquiao's big wins were either against shit/shot opponents, or "robberies" in the case of the 3 fights with Marquez, right?


P.S. You forgot Pacquiao's fight with Margo, but then he was shit/shot too, because he already had his ass handed to him by Mosley, right?

[ElTerribleMorales]

because the definition of a Pachater is the following: Anyone who doesn't get on his knees to suck off Manny Pacquiao, anyone who doesn't think that he's as great as most of his peons do, anyone who thinks that Manny Pacquiao lost fights against Marquez.

it's always been this way, and yea PSL the judges did see something that none of us did, they saw a bunch of Ben Franklins eagerly waiting for them prior to the start of the fight

Or in your case, it's because Pacquiao kicked the shit out of Morales.

not even, didn't have a problem with Manny until his hoard of fans started trying to make him out to be a gift from God, more or less after the DLH fight, Raheem had already picked up the win against Morales and that was already a showing that the end was coming near for Erik, don't get confused, yea Morales put on two great performances in his last two fights, but one was against an unknown young kid, and the other against Maidana who was perfectly made for him (slow, wide shots, doesn't use straight punches), unlike the Pactards, I don't dwell on shit that cleanly happens in the ring, Manny beat Cotto, he did so fairly, like I said in another post yea Cotto didn't have a corner, but who's fault is that? it was Miguel's not Pacquiao's, but when it comes to fights like his wins over the likes of DLH, Mosley, Diaz, and especially Marquez, there's plenty of bullshit surrounding all of them

Oscar was weight drained and shot to shit, so I fail to see why that was such a big win, especially when Roach himself openly admits that's why they took the fight

Mosley shot as well and had just gotten his ass handed to him by Mayweather

Diaz was just given a gift decision against Erik Morales (IMO worst decision of the year), and was still the weakest "champ" at 135

and well as previously stated Marquez has gone 3-0 against Manny or at the very worst 2-0-1

So pretty much all of Pacquiao's big wins were either against shit/shot opponents, or "robberies" in the case of the 3 fights with Marquez, right?


P.S. You forgot Pacquiao's fight with Margo, but then he was shit/shot too, because he already had his ass handed to him by Mosley, right?

his only clean cut wins that weren't against over the hill or weak opponents from 135 up were Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito, don't really see how you can say that any of the other fighters mentioned before were either not shot, or really were that good to begin with (David Diaz)

[Mars_ax]

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So pretty much all of Pacquiao's big wins were either against shit/shot opponents, or "robberies" in the case of the 3 fights with Marquez, right?


P.S. You forgot Pacquiao's fight with Margo, but then he was shit/shot too, because he already had his ass handed to him by Mosley, right?

his only clean cut wins that weren't against over the hill or weak opponents from 135 up were Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito, don't really see how you can say that any of the other fighters mentioned before were either not shot, or really were that good to begin with (David Diaz)

Except for the brutal KO in his first fight at 135, I don't think anyone was extremely impressed with Pac's beatdown of Diaz..That leaves Delahoya & Mosley, you seem to forget that although both these former great champions, were fading, Delahoya was thought to be be too big and too strong for Manny. When this fight was first announced, Oscar was coming off a very competitive recent fight with Mayweather and everyone thought the much smaller Pacquiao was crazy to take the fight and would get annihilated. But then after Manny hands Oscar his ass, he suddenly becomes a weight drained chump.
As for Mosley, yeah he looked like shit against Mayweather, but 2 fights earlier he'd demolished Margo, and here again he was much bigger than Pacquiao, and thought to have a good chance of winning.

Starting to think i'm a Pactard? Not at all, Pac is just 1 of 50 or more fighters I enjoy watching, just giving credit where credit is due. While i'll agree that Pac may have really lost the latest fight with Marquez, it's ridiculous to belittle what he accomplished in the 6 fights prior to that.

[ElTerribleMorales]

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So pretty much all of Pacquiao's big wins were either against shit/shot opponents, or "robberies" in the case of the 3 fights with Marquez, right?


P.S. You forgot Pacquiao's fight with Margo, but then he was shit/shot too, because he already had his ass handed to him by Mosley, right?

his only clean cut wins that weren't against over the hill or weak opponents from 135 up were Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito, don't really see how you can say that any of the other fighters mentioned before were either not shot, or really were that good to begin with (David Diaz)

Except for the brutal KO in his first fight at 135, I don't think anyone was extremely impressed with Pac's beatdown of Diaz..That leaves Delahoya & Mosley, you seem to forget that although both these former great champions, were fading, Delahoya was thought to be be too big and too strong for Manny. When this fight was first announced, Oscar was coming off a very competitive recent fight with Mayweather and everyone thought the much smaller Pacquiao was crazy to take the fight and would get annihilated. But then after Manny hands Oscar his ass, he suddenly becomes a weight drained chump.
As for Mosley, yeah he looked like shit against Mayweather, but 2 fights earlier he'd demolished Margo, and here again he was much bigger than Pacquiao, and thought to have a good chance of winning.

Starting to think i'm a Pactard? Not at all, Pac is just 1 of 50 or more fighters I enjoy watching, just giving credit where credit is due. While i'll agree that Pac may have really lost the latest fight with Marquez, it's ridiculous to belittle what he accomplished in the 6 fights prior to that.

DLH was competitive with Mayweather, but that was at 154, nobody thought that the move to 147 was a wise idea, and Oscar didn't look all that great against Forbes, Roach picked up on this and that's why the fight happened, it's not some theory that DLH was drained when Roach himself said he saw the needle marks on DLH's arm from when he was being re-hydrated, Manny fought a zombie that night

and against Mosley well Floyd had JUST BEATEN HIM, and by a landslide, so what was really the point in taking him on? especially when the fans were seriously against it, like i said bro you can try to play it up but as the saying goes "you're only as good as your last fight" and DLH, Mosley, and Diaz all had looked like shit in their fights before Pacquiao leading to why he chose them as opponents