Shogun vs Hendo

[mattboxingfan]

I see three people in the division who could beat Jones.

Rashad has fast hands and great striking along with outstanding wrestling I think he poses huge threats to Jones

Hendo has amazing power and a chin of granite. Along with huge amounts of experience a olympic wrestling he can beat Jones.

Phil Davis not right now but give him a few fights and he will be a real threat. He is a powerful wrestler and just needs to develop his striking thn he will be a threat.

Everyone is acting like Jones is some sort of God wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

[Mattyhitman]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

[mattboxingfan]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

Rampage is a one dimensional striker he had little chance of landing considering he is slow and pretty much just throws punches. Shogun couldn't strike with Hendo so he is not a more 'clinical striker'.

I'm not being ignorant all i said is wait until he has been hit clean because me nor you know how he will deal with it. We don't know about his chin neither do we know if he has enough experience to survive being hurt. Machida was hard to hit and look what happened when he got caught.

We don't know how he takes a big shot simple as that you'd have to be ignorant to ignore that fact.

[mattboxingfan]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

He's been tickled not hit hard.

[Mattyhitman]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

Rampage is a one dimensional striker he had little chance of landing considering he is slow and pretty much just throws punches. Shogun couldn't strike with Hendo so he is not a more 'clinical striker'.

I'm not being ignorant all i said is wait until he has been hit clean because me nor you know how he will deal with it. We don't know about his chin neither do we know if he has enough experience to survive being hurt. Machida was hard to hit and look what happened when he got caught.

We don't know how he takes a big shot simple as that you'd have to be ignorant to ignore that fact.

Did ya turn off the fight after the 3rd round then, as I remember, Shogun had him out on his feet with those wicked uppercuts, IF he had anymore gas left in the tank Hendo would of been outta there, fact ! For me Jones would of.
Dont get me wrong anyone can land that honey punch, especially one that has the power of Hendo, just cannot see it happening, Jones is to savvy to allow Hendo to get that close.
When stating Rua is a more clinical striker than Hendo, I was actually quoting Joe Rogan, who in fairness has been around the game longer than either of us, and I would take his word above most in the fight game, including yours.
As someone who is trained in Muay Thai, the 8 point attack, as Shogun is, his striking is not exactly bad, pointing to the fact he's stopped notable names like Machida, Overeem, Liddell, Jackson, Griffin etc with strikes, then thats fairly clinical in my book.

[mattboxingfan]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

Rampage is a one dimensional striker he had little chance of landing considering he is slow and pretty much just throws punches. Shogun couldn't strike with Hendo so he is not a more 'clinical striker'.

I'm not being ignorant all i said is wait until he has been hit clean because me nor you know how he will deal with it. We don't know about his chin neither do we know if he has enough experience to survive being hurt. Machida was hard to hit and look what happened when he got caught.

We don't know how he takes a big shot simple as that you'd have to be ignorant to ignore that fact.

Did ya turn off the fight after the 3rd round then, as I remember, Shogun had him out on his feet with those wicked uppercuts, IF he had anymore gas left in the tank Hendo would of been outta there, fact ! For me Jones would of.
Dont get me wrong anyone can land that honey punch, especially one that has the power of Hendo, just cannot see it happening, Jones is to savvy to allow Hendo to get that close.
When stating Rua is a more clinical striker than Hendo, I was actually quoting Joe Rogan, who in fairness has been around the game longer than either of us, and I would take his word above most in the fight game, including yours.
As someone who is trained in Muay Thai, the 8 point attack, as Shogun is, his striking is not exactly bad, pointing to the fact he's stopped notable names like Machida, Overeem, Liddell, Jackson, Griffin etc with strikes, then thats fairly clinical in my book.

If Hendo didn't hurt his hand when he was smashing Shogun he would have had him out of there. (I'm not so insecure i have to include FACT to make it sound believable)

Yeah Shogun has 8 weapons and a pretty much two weaponed Hendo dominated the stand up thanks for pointing that out.

Seriously quoting joe Rogan? That guy say's some serious shit I mean he knows his ground game for sure but didn't he say Shogun is the best Thai striker in the world? Yeah he is a little over the top. I wouldn't take his 'opinion' as fact.

Totally irrelevant listing who Shogun has beat but hay let me keep the trend up with a few of Hendos KO's Wanderlei, Fedor, Sobral, Bisping, Gono, Gracie.

Anyway back to the topic...All i said is wait and see when he gets hit hard. You don't know i don't know and Joe Rogan doesn't even know how he will take a big shot. Simple. Nothing to argue!

[Mattyhitman]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

Rampage is a one dimensional striker he had little chance of landing considering he is slow and pretty much just throws punches. Shogun couldn't strike with Hendo so he is not a more 'clinical striker'.

I'm not being ignorant all i said is wait until he has been hit clean because me nor you know how he will deal with it. We don't know about his chin neither do we know if he has enough experience to survive being hurt. Machida was hard to hit and look what happened when he got caught.

We don't know how he takes a big shot simple as that you'd have to be ignorant to ignore that fact.

Did ya turn off the fight after the 3rd round then, as I remember, Shogun had him out on his feet with those wicked uppercuts, IF he had anymore gas left in the tank Hendo would of been outta there, fact ! For me Jones would of.
Dont get me wrong anyone can land that honey punch, especially one that has the power of Hendo, just cannot see it happening, Jones is to savvy to allow Hendo to get that close.
When stating Rua is a more clinical striker than Hendo, I was actually quoting Joe Rogan, who in fairness has been around the game longer than either of us, and I would take his word above most in the fight game, including yours.
As someone who is trained in Muay Thai, the 8 point attack, as Shogun is, his striking is not exactly bad, pointing to the fact he's stopped notable names like Machida, Overeem, Liddell, Jackson, Griffin etc with strikes, then thats fairly clinical in my book.

If Hendo didn't hurt his hand when he was smashing Shogun he would have had him out of there. (I'm not so insecure i have to include FACT to make it sound believable)

Yeah Shogun has 8 weapons and a pretty much two weaponed Hendo dominated the stand up thanks for pointing that out.

Seriously quoting joe Rogan? That guy say's some serious shit I mean he knows his ground game for sure but didn't he say Shogun is the best Thai striker in the world? Yeah he is a little over the top. I wouldn't take his 'opinion' as fact.

Totally irrelevant listing who Shogun has beat but hay let me keep the trend up with a few of Hendos KO's Wanderlei ( Chinny), Fedor (shot fighter), Sobral, Bisping ( give him the shot ), Gono, Gracie.

Anyway back to the topic...All i said is wait and see when he gets hit hard. You don't know i don't know and Joe Rogan doesn't even know how he will take a big shot. Simple. Nothing to argue!

I cannot re-collect Rogan saying Shogun is the best Thai striker in the world, but he did state Shogun is the more clinical striker of the two.
So going by what ya saying Hendo has one hand only? Why then did he not use his other hand to strike, or his elbows ala Faber when he done both his hands when in WEC?
Smacks of one trick pony really.

Back to point, anyone with Hendo's power will trouble anyone in the division, my point of view is, will Jones allow that to happen. I would be very suprised if he did. Hendo's threat is the big right hand.....thats it. And even when he lands with that, ala shogun, it's not nailed on he will finish the opponent.

[mattboxingfan]

wait until we see him get hit on that chin.

This has happened only a few times, and he has dealt well with it. Reason some say what your saying, is because he doesnt get hit clean very often now, which is simply down to the fact it's hard to close the distance on him. You know as well as I do his reach is the longest in the LHW division. If he wants to keep you at distance he will. Jackson has probably one of the best 1 punch KO in the division, a devastating puncher. He could do nothing with him. Shogun, again a big and more clinical striker than Hendo, could do nothing with him.
For some one who watch's MMA im suprised at your ignorance towards Jones' skill set

Rampage is a one dimensional striker he had little chance of landing considering he is slow and pretty much just throws punches. Shogun couldn't strike with Hendo so he is not a more 'clinical striker'.

I'm not being ignorant all i said is wait until he has been hit clean because me nor you know how he will deal with it. We don't know about his chin neither do we know if he has enough experience to survive being hurt. Machida was hard to hit and look what happened when he got caught.

We don't know how he takes a big shot simple as that you'd have to be ignorant to ignore that fact.

Did ya turn off the fight after the 3rd round then, as I remember, Shogun had him out on his feet with those wicked uppercuts, IF he had anymore gas left in the tank Hendo would of been outta there, fact ! For me Jones would of.
Dont get me wrong anyone can land that honey punch, especially one that has the power of Hendo, just cannot see it happening, Jones is to savvy to allow Hendo to get that close.
When stating Rua is a more clinical striker than Hendo, I was actually quoting Joe Rogan, who in fairness has been around the game longer than either of us, and I would take his word above most in the fight game, including yours.
As someone who is trained in Muay Thai, the 8 point attack, as Shogun is, his striking is not exactly bad, pointing to the fact he's stopped notable names like Machida, Overeem, Liddell, Jackson, Griffin etc with strikes, then thats fairly clinical in my book.

If Hendo didn't hurt his hand when he was smashing Shogun he would have had him out of there. (I'm not so insecure i have to include FACT to make it sound believable)

Yeah Shogun has 8 weapons and a pretty much two weaponed Hendo dominated the stand up thanks for pointing that out.

Seriously quoting joe Rogan? That guy say's some serious shit I mean he knows his ground game for sure but didn't he say Shogun is the best Thai striker in the world? Yeah he is a little over the top. I wouldn't take his 'opinion' as fact.

Totally irrelevant listing who Shogun has beat but hay let me keep the trend up with a few of Hendos KO's Wanderlei ( Chinny), Fedor (shot fighter), Sobral, Bisping ( give him the shot ), Gono, Gracie.

Anyway back to the topic...All i said is wait and see when he gets hit hard. You don't know i don't know and Joe Rogan doesn't even know how he will take a big shot. Simple. Nothing to argue!

I cannot re-collect Rogan saying Shogun is the best Thai striker in the world, but he did state Shogun is the more clinical striker of the two.
So going by what ya saying Hendo has one hand only? Why then did he not use his other hand to strike, or his elbows ala Faber when he done both his hands when in WEC?
Smacks of one trick pony really.

Back to point, anyone with Hendo's power will trouble anyone in the division, my point of view is, will Jones allow that to happen. I would be very suprised if he did. Hendo's threat is the big right hand.....thats it. And even when he lands with that, ala shogun, it's not nailed on he will finish the opponent.

THIS IS NOT RELEVENT!

All I'm saying is: We haven't seen him get hit hard. Simple.

Also he isn't Faber? He hits hard with both hands but his best shot is his right and that got hurt lucky for Shogun. Try watching ths countdown show to hear Rogan say that quote.

[Mattyhitman]

Blimey, did I touch a nerve

All this shouting will give you a sore throat, calm down young man

[mattboxingfan]

Blimey, did I touch a nerve

All this shouting will give you a sore throat, calm down young man

No you didn't touch a nerve don't worry. I'll take your of topic comment as an acceptance of all i have said! Great to know you saw sense in the end.

[Mattyhitman]

Blimey, did I touch a nerve

All this shouting will give you a sore throat, calm down young man

No you didn't touch a nerve don't worry. I'll take your of topic comment as an acceptance of all i have said! Great to know you saw sense in the end.

Ahh finally you have stopped shouting and quoting in ridiculous bold, you must have calmed down, only took a week, lets hope you dont blow up again soon

[mattboxingfan]

Blimey, did I touch a nerve

All this shouting will give you a sore throat, calm down young man

No you didn't touch a nerve don't worry. I'll take your of topic comment as an acceptance of all i have said! Great to know you saw sense in the end.

Ahh finally you have stopped shouting and quoting in ridiculous bold, you must have calmed down, only took a week, lets hope you dont blow up again soon

You just have that effect on me.