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I am going against popular opinion here but here's my take on this.

I would separate the Margarito injustice with that of the case of Luis Resto. Not because something wrong was committed with regards to allowing Margarito to fight again, doesn't mean that fairness will be served by allowing Resto to get a trainer's license. The difference is that he DESTROYED A LIFE, the life of a promising boxer which led to his demise.

If it's up to me, I will have that license commission get a feedback from the Collins family. They are the victims here, not Resto. If they are alright in him getting a trainer's license, that means they have forgiven him and had put this incident behind them. Then he should be given that license. If they object, that means the pain is still there after all these years. Then he should not get that license. Resto is still alive and he can do any other jobs not related to boxing whereas the Collins family loss a loved one. At least give them the courtesy to find out how they feel about this issue.
I actually don't agree with this at all. The laws that govern us are a society's laws we don't have fuedal justice or an Arabic eye for eye, blood money system.

We have law courts, legal systems, governing bodies, elected officials etc to determine justice for the good of society. It's not up to the desires of the victims or the criminals.

Whichever boxing governing body which is presiding over this has the authority to decide, that's how our Western democracy's work. Justice is served impartially by an authorised source, not handed out by those involved.
I am not very knowledgeable with regards to the law applying to this case. Maybe you are, so you can probably correct any of my misconceptions. Or we have some US legal professionals posting here in Saddo who can answer these.

Isn't it up to the commission to decide whether Resto gets the trainer's license? Is there anything in the law that states that they cannot get a feedback from the victim's family? If there isn't, then they should have the courtesy of hearing what the Collins family has to say. After so many years, they still are the victims. I don't think there is any expiration date on when they cease to be the victims in this case. Now, after hearing the statements from the Collins family and they decide not to grant Resto that license, did the commission then break any laws?

In the final analysis, it's still the commission who will be making the decision. Justice is served impartially by an authorized source based on all available information that is at their disposal.
I'm sure they will be considerate of the Collins family and will contact them as a matter of courtesy. But the idea that a victim of a crime should be able to decide the outcome of something just goes against the very notion of Western justice.

As Western democracies we put our trust in the rule of law and institutions of justice to determine fair outcomes.

The boxing commission obviously is not a law court, but it is the elected body with the authority to decide in this case. They will decide whether they believe Resto has paid his dues and is no longer a risk. I think they should give him another chance personally, but again it's totally up to the commission. There is every chance they will turn it down too I guess. It just sounded like you were advocating the Collins family having the final say and that would be a primitive and likely barbaric way for justice to work. That's how Arab societies work, recently some who woman disfigured for life by an acid attack had the final say on whether or not her attacker should have his own face aruined by acid. It was her call. At the last minute she decided no, I think the media pressure and publicity was too much for her. But personally I think it's a horrible way to serve justice. The decisions need to be made by an outside authority. Rule of law, not eye for an eye.